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Title: gas stoichiometry
Post by: usman_liaquat on February 17, 2017, 10:21:35 AM
moist asir at 35°C with dew point of 20°C is to be dehydrated so that during is passage through a large cold room for food storage excess ice formation can be avoided on the chilling coils. If 72% of initial water in moist air is to be removed and moist air enters at 40 psi, to what temperature should the air be cooled at constant pressure?
Solve using Cox chart from Basic Chemical Processes by Olaf A. Hougen and Watson.

guys please help me i am 1st semester student of chemical Engineering and this question is given to me in Assignment and i can not solve it.
Title: Re: gas stoichiometry
Post by: Enthalpy on February 17, 2017, 11:17:24 AM
Hi usman_liaquat,

what you first need is some relation or graph between the air temperature and the amount of water vapour it can contain. I wouldn't be surprised if that were the chart in the referenced book.

When you have that relation or graph, invest time in meditating it. Apparently you missed that part of the story.
Title: Re: gas stoichiometry
Post by: usman_liaquat on February 17, 2017, 11:35:02 AM
Hi usman_liaquat,

what you first need is some relation or graph between the air temperature and the amount of water vapour it can contain. I wouldn't be surprised if that were the chart in the referenced book.

When you have that relation or graph, invest time in meditating it. Apparently you missed that part of the story.
and how will i relate the dew point?
and there is a temperature-vapor pressure graph.
Title: Re: gas stoichiometry
Post by: billnotgatez on February 17, 2017, 03:19:39 PM
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Title: Re: gas stoichiometry
Post by: billnotgatez on February 17, 2017, 03:28:34 PM
Some things you might post may assist others in helping you
If you have done a GOOGLE search on the table(s) mentioned and post the link
Of less help but may be useful is the ISBN of the book mentioned.

You might start by
Stating your understanding of how Dew Point relates to the amount of water in the air.

By the way
GOOGLE and WIKIPEDIA can be your friends
Title: Re: gas stoichiometry
Post by: usman_liaquat on February 17, 2017, 04:10:21 PM
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okay i am solving it by myself, i have found the molal humidity from the chart to be 0.037 and as we know the molal humidity is moles of vapor/ moles of vapor-free (dry) gas. so taking 1 mole of dry gas as basis we have moles of water can i find volume by considering these moles of water as of gas' by comparing it to the volume occupied by 1 mole of gas i.e. 359 cubic feet so it will occupy 13.283 cubic feet? and also i have a question the vapor pressure of water or any other liquid at dew point is equal to the vapor pressure at a temperature higher than dew point?