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soap and animal fat
« on: November 05, 2008, 05:55:41 PM »
One method used to make soap, NaC17H35CO2, includes the reaction between NaOH and animal fat, C3H5(C17H35CO2)3 according to the following balanced equation:

 C3H5(C17H35CO2)3 + 3 NaOH ----> C3H5(OH)3 + 3NaC17H35CO2

1. How many grams of soap would theoretically be produced by starting with 125g of animal fat?

I figured it out to be 387g. I'm just not entirely sure I did it correctly.

I found the molar mass of animal fat to be 890g and the molar mass of soap to be 918.

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks much.


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Re: soap and animal fat
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2008, 10:53:36 PM »
387 is correct
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Re: soap and animal fat
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2008, 11:23:42 PM »
uh oh. are you sure? because I did it again and got 129 g of soap.
??? thanks so much.

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Re: soap and animal fat
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2008, 03:04:43 AM »
387 was incorrect.

Your molar mass of the soap was not correct - formula of the soap is NaC17H35CO2, not 3NaC17H35CO2.

129 is OK.
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Re: soap and animal fat
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2008, 05:35:18 AM »
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uh oh. are you sure? because I did it again and got 129 g of soap.
 thanks so much.

Ye you are right as Borek has already said, as i worked out the question assuming your molar mass stated was correct.
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Re: soap and animal fat
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2008, 06:29:52 AM »
i worked out the question assuming your molar mass stated was correct.

That's why I like to check such questions with EBAS, it helps to catch stupid mistakes.

Although in this case error was obvious - molar mass of the soap must be about three times lower than the molar mass of the triglyceride.
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Re: soap and animal fat
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2008, 08:15:02 AM »
387 was incorrect.

Your molar mass of the soap was not correct - formula of the soap is NaC17H35CO2, not 3NaC17H35CO2.

129 is OK.

Where did the other 2 sodiums go? or should it be Na3C17H35CO2
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Re: soap and animal fat
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2008, 08:39:31 AM »
Where did the other 2 sodiums go? or should it be Na3C17H35CO2

To two OTHER soap molecules. Three are produced, each with NaC17H35CO2 formula, and molar mass of 306.46.
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