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what could that be?
« on: December 07, 2009, 03:58:56 PM »
You, organikers, you may be able to help an old timer with short memory ;)

Many years ago during organic lab I was doing some experiment, some kind of synthesis. It required an ice bath for preparation of unstable intermediate, after that I had to add some solution - iodide? - and things went awry at that moment, with whole mixture exploding and staining everything with iodine.

What could that be? I guess that was some more or less standard synthetic method of replacing some functional gruop with iodine.
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Re: what could that be?
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2009, 04:03:22 PM »
Haloform reaction? Iodohydrin formation?

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Re: what could that be?
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2009, 05:03:48 PM »
Now, now you know we don't discuss explosives here ;)

Could be all sorts of things - do you remember anything about your other reactants?

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Re: what could that be?
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2009, 05:40:24 PM »
Unfortunately not much, that was about 25 years ago. Somehow I think the reason of the explosion was not highly energetic reaction, but rather fast decomposition with evolving gas (nitrogen?) - but I can be wrong.
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Re: what could that be?
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2009, 06:29:07 PM »
An unstable intermediate, an "explosion" and evolution of nitrogen... perhaps a diazo compound? 

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Re: what could that be?
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2009, 09:12:50 PM »
I must agree about potentially being a diazonium reaction.  I have had one get out of hand when not cold enough and adding iodide too fast.

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Re: what could that be?
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2009, 10:41:53 PM »
Sandmeyer maybe?

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Re: what could that be?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2009, 04:02:38 AM »
Yep, these obviously fit things that I remember. Wiki states that diazonium salts are unstable above 5 °C - and that sounds like something I may have read about the reaction at the time.

Unfortunately, I don't remember much more.

From what I read Sandmeyer reaction requires presence of some copper (I) halogen - but I think addition of iodide solution was the final operation before separation and purification of the product.
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Re: what could that be?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2009, 12:08:17 PM »
Most do, but iodination just requires an iodine salt.  Wiki says there's apparently another method for iodination of benzene by refluxing benzene, nitric acid, and I2, but I don't really know anything about that.

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