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acetic acid
« on: April 27, 2010, 09:59:31 AM »
If we have a solution of 1000 molecules and 42 of them is reacted with water(protolyisis).   And if we then add a 1000 of molecules(?) od NaOH, is then the number of aceitic molecules that reacts with water going to change or not?

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Re: acetic acid
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2010, 10:18:26 AM »
Think what you have in solution after adding 1000 molecules of NaOH to 1000 molecules of acetic acid.
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Re: acetic acid
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2010, 11:15:16 AM »
Salt sodium acetate and water and x-moleculs of non-disociated acetic acid?

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Re: acetic acid
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2010, 02:05:24 PM »
Where does the undissociated acid come from?
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Re: acetic acid
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2010, 03:37:10 PM »
I dont now. Does it disociate 100% when the base is added?

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Re: acetic acid
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2010, 03:49:52 PM »
When the base is added it gets neutralized - so there should be no acetic acid at all.

In reality some of the acetate anions react with water - they are a weak base - yielding OH-and acetic acid. But basically you have no acetic acid in the solution, so it can't react with water.
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Re: acetic acid
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2010, 10:30:09 PM »
Why is then pH basic?

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Re: acetic acid
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2010, 03:38:04 AM »
Why is then pH basic?
some of the acetate anions react with water - they are a weak base - yielding OH-
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