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Re: DIY spray on chrome System
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2012, 04:26:58 PM »

que tal, has tenido problema con el acabado despues de seis meses? en otro foro alguien de Nicaragua dice que el clear no resiste ó presenta permeabilidad, me pregunto si usando un CPC de Eastman ó anticorrosivos hibridos de Halox ayudarían, creo voy a diseñar este sistema en México ya que tengo acceso a los materiales, agradecería que nos apoyaramos mutuamente, saludos

PS am not really sure if i must use english to post but let me know
english is a must here, but its ok buddy I will be glad to help you out, I was the one that stated that in 6 months spectra chrome clear did failed(with pics of a guy that use spectra, I have not been able to test them yet), but I believe that a good clear coat and enough of it(about 3 to 4 coats) is enough to protect it after 6 months,
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Re: DIY spray on chrome System
« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2012, 04:43:21 PM »

hi.. i new user. but i read any this site. and i test spray on chrome system. but it lost.... i can not activating suface on base coat... you can help me?? what chamical do it.. thank.
did you test a spray on chrome kit from another compay or one that you built yourself? and I need you to describe the entire process you did, so I can pin point what´s the issue here
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Re: DIY spray on chrome System
« Reply #32 on: May 16, 2012, 02:04:43 PM »

can someone help me post this videos? they show how thin is the silver layer..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocm2a9031vM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=jMWtAQ5xJ0A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehqJ8lE_tlM&feature=relmfu

thanks

Edit by Borek - here you go:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/ocm2a9031vM?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/ocm2a9031vM?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/jMWtAQ5xJ0A?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/jMWtAQ5xJ0A?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/ehqJ8lE_tlM?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/ehqJ8lE_tlM?version=3&amp;amp;hl=en_US</a>
« Last Edit: May 16, 2012, 09:22:04 PM by Borek »
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Re: DIY spray on chrome System
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2012, 03:26:52 PM »

Ok then am gonna use english, ok i told you that am about to try this system here in Mex, i did a research on how to get them raw chemicals, and i already did with them AgNO3 and SnCl2, with the last one am gonna have to do a more deeper research due the fact that in the market there are three types: anhydrous, dihydrate and pentahydrate,  also i was thinking about giving the fresh silver deposition a protective layer of SnCl2, have you tried this out yet? and then the poly topcoat, also, if you happen to need any help on your water and solvent based coatings feel free to ask me about resins and additives
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Re: DIY spray on chrome System
« Reply #34 on: May 19, 2012, 01:23:40 PM »

also i was thinking about giving the fresh silver deposition a protective layer of SnCl2, have you tried this out yet? and then the poly topcoat, also, if you happen to need any help on your water and solvent based coatings feel free to ask me about resins and additives
I´ve been thinking about using some kind of passivation on the silver layer but so far the only experiment that I have done with this in mind has not produce any good results, I have tried spraying the tin for silver(sensitizer) on a fresh silver layer but it destroys the silver layer, I think is the acidic nature of the stannous chloride. but then again the silver layer is very thin and weak, in a hot day i was sweating alot and one sweat drop on the silver layer and it left a mark..
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Re: DIY spray on chrome System
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2012, 01:28:22 PM »

a comprehensive Spray On Chrome How to, in the hand lettering forum

http://www.handletteringforum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3311

I´ll post it here when I have time
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Re: DIY spray on chrome System
« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2012, 09:44:32 AM »

Hi nicamarvin , i need help about spray chroming if can U contact me. I ll ask some question. Thx..

mail : (removed, sjb)

Any reason why you can't ask the questions directly here?

No problem did U find Formula on spray chrome or buy it?
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« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2012, 12:02:57 PM »

did U find Formula on spray chrome or buy it?
its actually a silver mirror formula that I bought off the internet, you see when you are dealing with this process you want to reduce the complexity as much as possible, eliminating the variables will give you better results, I did try a home made silvering formula but it was not giving me the consistency needed for a business
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Re: DIY spray on chrome System
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2012, 12:17:53 PM »

Hi looking good, is it possible you can sell us the same formula so we dont get mixed results please sir!
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Re: DIY spray on chrome System
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2012, 12:26:09 PM »

Also just for clarity 2k urethane paint as a base and 2k urethane clear as a laquer?
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Re: DIY spray on chrome System
« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2012, 06:17:58 AM »

Hi looking good, is it possible you can sell us the same formula so we dont get mixed results please sir!
I dont sell this product, you can buy them off the shelf.. this is a DIY how to.
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« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2012, 06:19:21 AM »

Also just for clarity 2k urethane paint as a base and 2k urethane clear as a laquer?
2k means it has been catalized with a hardener, thats all, I only use this type of coating because it has good quality and durability
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Re: DIY spray on chrome System
« Reply #42 on: May 26, 2012, 10:24:14 AM »

also i was thinking about giving the fresh silver deposition a protective layer of SnCl2, have you tried this out yet? and then the poly topcoat, also, if you happen to need any help on your water and solvent based coatings feel free to ask me about resins and additives
I´ve been thinking about using some kind of passivation on the silver layer but so far the only experiment that I have done with this in mind has not produce any good results, I have tried spraying the tin for silver(sensitizer) on a fresh silver layer but it destroys the silver layer, I think is the acidic nature of the stannous chloride. but then again the silver layer is very thin and weak, in a hot day i was sweating alot and one sweat drop on the silver layer and it left a mark..
hello again i've found a product that's have being used by toymakers to protect the silver, is a hybrid rust inhibitor, i have a sample of it, i'll let you know how it works
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Re: DIY spray on chrome System
« Reply #43 on: May 26, 2012, 10:12:36 PM »

hi.. i new user. but i read any this site. and i test spray on chrome system. but it lost.... i can not activating suface on base coat... you can help me?? what chamical do it.. thank.
did you test a spray on chrome kit from another compay or one that you built yourself? and I need you to describe the entire process you did, so I can pin point what´s the issue here
Not problem. thanks you very much. :) but this time i find fumula for spray on chrome you can help me about guideline it ... :)
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Re: DIY spray on chrome System
« Reply #44 on: May 28, 2012, 08:54:31 AM »

hello again i've found a product that's have being used by toymakers to protect the silver, is a hybrid rust inhibitor, i have a sample of it, i'll let you know how it works
Thanks Buddy, please let me now about it
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