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How would one go about creating this molecule?
« on: December 11, 2011, 07:05:21 AM »
Cl-CH2-CH2-O-CH2-O-CH2-CH2-Cl

Only using ethylene and formaldehyde as a carbon source?

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Re: How would one go about creating this molecule?
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2011, 02:46:55 PM »
Show your attempt at the question, this is Forum policy.

Hint: acetal
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Re: How would one go about creating this molecule?
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2011, 03:54:03 PM »
Okay this is what I did

1) Use Cl2 and H2O on ethylene to produce 2-Chloroethanol

2) Use 2-Chloroethanol with formaldehyde and a strong acid to get a hemiacetal

3) React the hemiacetal from above with ethylene and Cl2

On a side note:

Can you produce a hemiacetal using ethanol and then deprotonating it with NaH and then reacting it with the formaldehyde?
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Re: How would one go about creating this molecule?
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2011, 07:12:22 PM »
2) Use 2-Chloroethanol with formaldehyde and a strong acid to get a hemiacetal

This will give the target acetal. Hemicaetals are not stabe unless they're cyclic (e.g. sugars).

2ROH + H2CO ::equil:: (RO)2CH2 + H2O

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Can you produce a hemiacetal using ethanol and then deprotonating it with NaH and then reacting it with the formaldehyde?

This is a reversible process, the hemiacetal will readily collapse back to the starting materials.
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Re: How would one go about creating this molecule?
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2011, 08:02:26 PM »
Oh, thanks I see it now.

So the reaction still works even if there is a Cl on the other carbon of the ethanol molecule? That was the part I was wondering about.

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Re: How would one go about creating this molecule?
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2011, 03:21:42 AM »
In the absence of strong nucleophiles or bases, I don't think the chloro substituent will cause a problem.
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