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Secondary alcohol to primary
« on: January 19, 2012, 01:00:15 PM »
Say you had a secondary alcohol and you wanted to replace the hydroxyl group with a carbon and then attach another hydroxyl group to said carbon. This is a discussion about how one might go about doing that. Different strategies and approaches.

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Re: Secondary alcohol to primary
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2012, 01:16:22 PM »
Go from something like 2-propanol to 2-methyl-1-propanol? It can be done, but not easily in one step.
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Re: Secondary alcohol to primary
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2012, 01:29:19 PM »
Yes, that is the process.

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Re: Secondary alcohol to primary
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2012, 01:49:28 PM »
You'd have to add a carbon. What are some good C1 nucleophiles, and how would you make the alcohol an electrophile?
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Re: Secondary alcohol to primary
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2012, 07:50:27 PM »
here is one such way.  there are however a host of others.



Say you had a secondary alcohol and you wanted to replace the hydroxyl group with a carbon and then attach another hydroxyl group to said carbon. This is a discussion about how one might go about doing that. Different strategies and approaches.

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Re: Secondary alcohol to primary
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2012, 07:54:39 AM »
So how would you go about forming that ylid?
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Re: Secondary alcohol to primary
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2012, 11:46:40 AM »
by combining triphenylphosphine with iodomethanol

So how would you go about forming that ylid?

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Re: Secondary alcohol to primary
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2012, 11:48:18 AM »
It is the enolate of an aldehyde the equilibrium will be completely to the aldehyde side.
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Re: Secondary alcohol to primary
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2012, 12:01:13 PM »
So how would you go about forming that ylid?

by combining triphenylphosphine with iodomethanol

Iodomethanol does not exist exist (in a practical sense). It would decompose to formaldehyde and HI.
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Re: Secondary alcohol to primary
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2012, 12:02:46 PM »
"by combining triphenylphosphine with iodomethanol"

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Re: Secondary alcohol to primary
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2012, 12:21:11 PM »
@plexx92
I missed that class. Were you discussing Grignard reagents?
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