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Help Identify this molecule
« on: October 12, 2012, 08:12:07 PM »
Ok so I'm in a Inorganic Chemistry class and we have an assignment to identify all the vibrations in the molecule and which are IR and Raman active. I actually think I can handle that part but I can't even freaking figure out which molecule I'm dealing with! I've taken 4 years of chemistry and I've never seen this notation before!!! WTF please help

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Re: Help Identify this molecule
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2012, 06:10:50 AM »
It looks like it is a generic molecule IY3. There are two lone pairs and I guess they are indicating that the bond angles are 90° (e.g. ICl3) - I do not know what the "05" is (or possibly 06/CS/C6/OS etc I cant decipher the handwriting 100%).
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Re: Help Identify this molecule
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2012, 12:04:13 PM »
Thank you for your input. I still need help with this one though. Remember this is for group theory, the atoms themselves don't matter, we just need to figure out the symmetry of the molecule

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Re: Help Identify this molecule
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2012, 02:09:48 PM »
You should show an attempt at this, that is a forum rule.

You need to determine the point group of the molecule, e.g.:

http://symmetry.otterbein.edu/common/images/flowchart.pdf

and then carry out a vibrational analysis using character tables from your textbook. There will be a chapter on vibrational analysis in most inorganic textbooks. Expecting all of it to be reproduced here is unreasonable.
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Re: Help Identify this molecule
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2012, 04:24:15 PM »
Uhh well I have no problem getting the vibrations and point groups I don't need help with that... I am not breaking any rules. I just need to know what molecule it is. I appreciate your answer however it did not seem convincing

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Re: Help Identify this molecule
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2012, 04:28:04 PM »
Dan - Thanks for your answer. The more I look at it the more I realize you are right with ICl3. I can now begin working on the problem. I realize it made it seem like I was asking for more help I was just not convinced yet that you were right on the identification of the molecule.

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