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Offline quantumnumber

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Short synthesis of 3-methoxybenzaldehyde?
« on: August 30, 2014, 02:13:16 PM »
Hi guys,

I was thinking of the best route to synthesize 3-methoxybenzaldehyde from benzene or toluene. I have proposed a couple of theoretically logical options, but they consist on too many steps (7 or more)...
Any suggestions?
Thanks a lot.

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Re: Short synthesis of 3-methoxybenzaldehyde?
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2014, 02:33:29 PM »
 :-[I don't think you can do it in two (steps, edit), so show us what you have and what you think are its defects.
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Re: Short synthesis of 3-methoxybenzaldehyde?
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2014, 02:44:28 PM »
I would try ordering it :).  Why do you need 3-methyoxybenzaldehyde? :)
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Re: Short synthesis of 3-methoxybenzaldehyde?
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2014, 03:42:33 PM »
How about in 5 steps such as Freidel crafts acylation with methanoyl chloride, followed by bromination, then NaOH at 70°C in H3O, followed by NaH then Br-CH3.


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Re: Short synthesis of 3-methoxybenzaldehyde?
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2014, 03:44:02 PM »
And of course my suggestion is starting with benzene..

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Re: Short synthesis of 3-methoxybenzaldehyde?
« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2014, 03:47:07 PM »
I would try ordering it :).  Why do you need 3-methyoxybenzaldehyde? :)
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It's a retrosynthetic excercise my teacher asked me to do... The point is that I'm not sure he really want me to start from bencene or toluene, but is what the formulation of the excercise said  :-\

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Re: Short synthesis of 3-methoxybenzaldehyde?
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2014, 03:48:24 PM »
this is what I thought first...

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Re: Short synthesis of 3-methoxybenzaldehyde?
« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2014, 03:54:42 PM »
How about in 5 steps such as Freidel crafts acylation with methanoyl chloride, followed by bromination, then NaOH at 70°C in H3O, followed by NaH then Br-CH3.

After the bromination, is that a nucleophilic aromatic substitution? I thought something like that, but the electron widrawing group should be at orto/para position from bromine to activate it, shouldn't it?

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Re: Short synthesis of 3-methoxybenzaldehyde?
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2014, 04:02:46 PM »
Very good, good catch!  8)

Let me rethink the synthesis

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Re: Short synthesis of 3-methoxybenzaldehyde?
« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2014, 04:49:10 PM »
This is an awesome question. It's amazing how fast it went from being really easy to really complicated. Since this is a theoretical question, how about we increase the temperature for the nucleophilic substitution from 70°C to 350°C. 
I was looking through my book for a reaction I maybe forgot/wasn't covered when I took Organic and the increase in temperature seems to work without the need for an ortho/para electron withdrawing group.

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Re: Short synthesis of 3-methoxybenzaldehyde?
« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2014, 04:52:23 PM »
Looking back at your route, wouldn't the H2/Pd C after the acyalation also reduce the carbonyl s?

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Re: Short synthesis of 3-methoxybenzaldehyde?
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2014, 06:37:16 PM »
Looking back at your route, wouldn't the H2/Pd C after the acyalation also reduce the carbonyl s?
You're right. I made a mistake. The catalytic hydrogenation must be done using platinum(IV) oxide (PtO2;)

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Re: Short synthesis of 3-methoxybenzaldehyde?
« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2014, 10:42:09 PM »
@quantum
Since your route uses the sequence of nitration, reduction, diazotization, and hydrolysis, this introduces a hydroxyl group at the nitro. What kind of director is benzaldehyde? Might it be a useful target?
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Re: Short synthesis of 3-methoxybenzaldehyde?
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2014, 06:58:17 AM »
AHHH, sorry, there is another step of nitration after reducing the first NO2... I forgot to write it  :-\
I added this second NO2 to block that position and acylate at orto position from the amine.

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Re: Short synthesis of 3-methoxybenzaldehyde?
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2014, 09:45:04 PM »
BUY IT!  :)
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