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Offline blueberry58

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Getting magnesium gluconate from calcium gluconate
« on: April 08, 2015, 02:26:23 PM »
I'm trying to prepare magnesium gluconate. I did not find gluconic acid, only sodium or calcium gluconate.

I think the next reaction would work fine:

CaC12H22O14 + Mg (OH) 2 = Ca (OH) 2 + MgC12H22O14

My problem is how to separate  gluconate salt from calcium hydroxide. I expected that hydroxide to be less soluble. Or is preferable other salt?

Have someone experience in this subject?

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Re: Getting magnesium gluconate from calcium gluconate
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2015, 02:43:41 PM »
I rewrote your formula to take advantage of the editing features on the posting page.
CaC12H22O14 + Mg(OH) 2  :rarrow: Ca(OH)2 + MgC12H22O14
C12H22CaO14 + Mg(OH)2  :rarrow: C12H22MgO14 + Ca(OH)2
Calcium gluconate + Magnesium hydroxide :rarrow:  Magnesium gluconate +  Calcium hydroxide

I'm trying to prepare magnesium gluconate. I did not find gluconic acid, only sodium or calcium gluconate.

I think the next reaction would work fine:

CaC12H22O14 + Mg (OH) 2 = Ca (OH) 2 + MgC12H22O14

My problem is how to separate  gluconate salt from calcium hydroxide. I expected that hydroxide to be less soluble. Or is preferable other salt?

Have someone experience in this subject?
« Last Edit: April 08, 2015, 03:02:21 PM by billnotgatez »

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Re: Getting magnesium gluconate from calcium gluconate
« Reply #2 on: April 08, 2015, 02:51:36 PM »
Thank you Borek.

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Re: Getting magnesium gluconate from calcium gluconate
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2015, 02:59:59 PM »
What do you know about solubilities of all substances involved?
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Re: Getting magnesium gluconate from calcium gluconate
« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2015, 03:46:51 PM »
Solubilities

Calcium Hydroxide   0.185 g/100 cm³
Magnesium gluconate  10 g / 100 cm³ 25°C

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Re: Getting magnesium gluconate from calcium gluconate
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2015, 05:35:40 PM »
That's not enough. For the salt metathesis you need to compare solubilities of both products and reactants to be able to decide which way the reaction goes.
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Re: Getting magnesium gluconate from calcium gluconate
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2015, 11:22:18 AM »
I already remembered this. The aim is to see what the salt tendency to crystallize sooner.

In past days I worked with no success separating magnesium thiosulfate and sodium chloride in solution. Salting out temp didnt work. Suppossedly MgThiosulfate should precipitate below 9 °C.

But I could find not data for a curve on sites that I know. CRC handbook doesnt include this data. I cant access Merck Index.  I would think cooling the products would precipite calcium chloride for its low solubility.


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A patent on this subject (ion exchange resin)

http://www.google.tl/patents/US3670000

it show it is feasible but don't state some details of the process.

In this case as I understand resin must receive the ion to be exchanged and sodium on it must be removed.

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Re: Getting magnesium gluconate from calcium gluconate
« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2015, 02:35:06 PM »
Mix a solution of calcium gluconate with an equimolar solution of magnesium sulfate (AKA Epsom salt) - calcium sulfate should precipitate out, leaving magnesium gluconate in solution.

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Re: Getting magnesium gluconate from calcium gluconate
« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2015, 08:59:12 AM »
try to pass co2 in the solution to forms caco3

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