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Sodium oxalate solution
« on: August 31, 2015, 10:17:39 AM »
How to prepare a 5-6 % Sodium oxalate soln the solubility is 3.7 g/100ml , after boiling the solid crystallizes again , the same happen when adding HCl ? any ideas 

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Re: Sodium oxalate solution
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2015, 11:07:43 AM »
You can't prepare a solution with the concentration higher than the solubility.
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Re: Sodium oxalate solution
« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2015, 11:20:13 AM »
Like Borek: said, it doesn't seem possible.  Why do you need this solution?  Are you mis-reading a protocol in some way?  If I Google for solutions of sodium oxalate, I can see that Sigma-Aldrich sells a volumetric standard at 25g per liter.  And I did find this ancient protocol here: {click}.but I think that one uses a decimal that centered, for some reason:  i.e. 0.5 % written as ·5 %.

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All references to sodium oxalate in the USP, as an example, specify a lower level.
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Re: Sodium oxalate solution
« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2015, 02:42:14 PM »
Arkon , good point but i think i am sur eof the number the soln is 0.5 M Oxalate .

its  0.5 M Oxalate soln , i will use it as a catalyst or synergist with 0.5 M EDTA soln , to be used as a solvent.

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Re: Sodium oxalate solution
« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2015, 03:20:16 PM »
You say in your second post that you need 0.5 M oxalate, so does this mean you don't need sodium? Potassium oxalate is quite a lot more soluble than sodium oxalate.
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Re: Sodium oxalate solution
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2015, 03:29:46 PM »
unfortunately , i only have the sodium salt in the lab

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Re: Sodium oxalate solution
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2015, 03:35:21 PM »
unfortunately , i only have the sodium salt in the lab

And unfortunately we only have the laws of nature in this universe... you can't make 0.5 M sodium oxalate at room temperature, it isn't soluble enough.
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Re: Sodium oxalate solution
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2015, 04:01:48 PM »
How to prepare a 5-6 % Sodium oxalate soln the solubility is 3.7 g/100ml , after boiling the solid crystallizes again , the same happen when adding HCl ? any ideas

Arkon , good point but i think i am sur eof the number the soln is 0.5 M Oxalate .

its  0.5 M Oxalate soln , i will use it as a catalyst or synergist with 0.5 M EDTA soln , to be used as a solvent.

0.5 M ≠ 5% for sodium oxalate in water.
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Re: Sodium oxalate solution
« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2015, 04:38:01 PM »

And unfortunately we only have the laws of nature in this universe... you can't make 0.5 M sodium oxalate at room temperature, it isn't soluble enough.
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I found it prepared in US  Number: 5,259,980 , so wondering how to make it as its not indicated in detail.



Arkon , good point but i think i am sur eof the number the soln is 0.5 M Oxalate .

its  0.5 M Oxalate soln , i will use it as a catalyst or synergist with 0.5 M EDTA soln , to be used as a solvent.

0.5 M ≠ 5% for sodium oxalate in water.
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if my calculations are right i  think its bigger =  6.7 % , but i am going through 5% only as i don't have much of the salt for more of trials.

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