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Potassium Silicate vs Sodium Silicate in Refractory
« on: September 22, 2015, 04:28:42 AM »
I would like to know whether Potassium Silicate is a better binder than Sodium Silicate in making refractory bricks.

A search on the Internet on a 'vs' question relating to the two says that Potassium Silicate is more soluble, has lower efflorescence, lower tack, something about atmospheric dissolvers, none of which makes any sense to me. The only thing of interest was apparently Potassium Silicate can be used at marginally higher temperatures (50 deg C).

Can I substitute Potassium Silicate for Sodium Silicate?

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Re: Potassium Silicate vs Sodium Silicate in Refractory
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2015, 12:34:39 PM »
From the phase diagrams potassium silicate has a higher melting point then sodium silicate only in a narrow region from around 0.55 to about 0.65 weight fraction silica. I suppose with some trial and error you might be able to get a marginally better performing refractory by replacing sodium silicate with potassium silicate. However I would think you would be much better off with lithium silicate in a refractory.

Phase diagrams taken from here:
http://www.niir.org/books/book/complete-book-on-glass-ceramics-technology-niir-board-consultants-engineers/isbn-8178330334/zb,,f4,a,0,0,a/index.html

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Re: Potassium Silicate vs Sodium Silicate in Refractory
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2015, 01:17:01 PM »
Well,

as a home hobbyist, I found Potassium & Sodium silicate easily, as for lithium silicate, that seems tougher to find.

If I get water glass from Potassium or Sodium Hydroxide + Water + Silica Gel, can I assume if I find Lithium Hydroxide, the process will be the same?

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Re: Potassium Silicate vs Sodium Silicate in Refractory
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2015, 12:00:20 PM »
At normal pressure you need a high surface area silica like silica gel to have much chance at success at making your own alkali silicate but it definitely works. I've done it by boiling fumed silica with NaOH in little stainless steel dishes. Just don't let it dry out once you make it because it won't redissolve. The choice of vessel is important, boiling strong base is rather corrosive.

Lithium Hydroxide is the weakest alkali hydroxide and it may prove a bit more stubborn to dissolve the silica but I would think it could be made to dissolve even without pressure.

Also lithium is much much lighter. Expect to use a lot less of it by weight, but about the same by molecule.

Keep in mind that there is a mixed alkali effect. Basically glasses with a combination of different alkali will soften at lower temperatures. So it is best to stick with just sodium or just lithium.

Unlike sodium silicate, I couldn't immediately find any lithium silicate sold as the pure chemical at a consumer scale either. It is used as a concrete sealer, however I wasn't able to find any online that clearly labeled their exact contents. Some of the products had MSDS which listed only lithium silicate if you wanted to go that route instead.
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