April 19, 2024, 11:29:59 PM
Forum Rules: Read This Before Posting


Topic: Synthesis of thiophene-lacton compound  (Read 2681 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Shadow

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 227
  • Mole Snacks: +5/-11
Synthesis of thiophene-lacton compound
« on: November 23, 2015, 02:21:04 PM »
Is this synthesis of my reasonable: (instead of Pictet-Spengler it is Bischler-Napieralski Reaction)

I am not sure whether the azide will react in some steps. Help needed.
« Last Edit: November 23, 2015, 03:18:36 PM by Shadow »

Offline Shadow

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 227
  • Mole Snacks: +5/-11
Re: Synthesis of thiophene-lacton compound
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2015, 07:01:50 AM »
Anyone familiar with azide chemistry? Any other suggestions for synthetic route?

Offline clarkstill

  • Chemist
  • Full Member
  • *
  • Posts: 477
  • Mole Snacks: +77/-4
Re: Synthesis of thiophene-lacton compound
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2015, 11:29:05 AM »
I'd be a little concerned about your third structure: formula C4N4... There's a general rule that for azides to be safe the ratio C:N should be greater than 3:1.

Offline orgopete

  • Chemist
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 2636
  • Mole Snacks: +213/-71
    • Curved Arrow Press
Re: Synthesis of thiophene-lacton compound
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2015, 01:50:29 PM »
I'd also add the target looks very sensitive to aromatization. I'd bet that Pictet-Spangler would also aromatize the pyridine ring.
Author of a multi-tiered example based workbook for learning organic chemistry mechanisms.

Offline Shadow

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 227
  • Mole Snacks: +5/-11
Re: Synthesis of thiophene-lacton compound
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2015, 01:54:30 PM »
Nice catch.
« Last Edit: November 25, 2015, 04:32:48 PM by Borek »

Offline Shadow

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 227
  • Mole Snacks: +5/-11
Re: Synthesis of thiophene-lacton compound
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2015, 01:47:24 PM »
Could anyone suggest another synthesis?

Offline Rutherford

  • Sr. Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1868
  • Mole Snacks: +60/-29
  • Gender: Male
Re: Synthesis of thiophene-lacton compound
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2015, 06:05:09 AM »
I'd also add the target looks very sensitive to aromatization. I'd bet that Pictet-Spangler would also aromatize the pyridine ring.

Bischler-Napieralski Reaction is used to synthesize dihydroisoquinolines, so there is no big threat of aromatization.

Offline critzz

  • Full Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 99
  • Mole Snacks: +7/-0
  • Gender: Male
Re: Synthesis of thiophene-lacton compound
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2015, 11:31:49 AM »
Would something like this work?



EDIT: Nevermind, I drew the lactone wrong.  ;D
« Last Edit: November 28, 2015, 12:05:07 PM by critzz »

Offline kriggy

  • Chemist
  • Sr. Member
  • *
  • Posts: 1520
  • Mole Snacks: +136/-16
Re: Synthesis of thiophene-lacton compound
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2015, 01:15:04 PM »
not sure here but isnt paladium posioned by sulphur?

Sponsored Links