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Sulfuric acid + water
« on: May 18, 2017, 09:35:05 PM »
Iv'e been doing some research for a personal project and iv'e hit a roadblock.
what i would like to know is; what is the chemical composition of a mixture of sulfuric acid and water?

after doing some research iv'e gotten two different answers.
One is that simply a dilution of sulfuric acid will be made.
The other is that adding water to acid will force an ionization where H2O will steal the hydrogen from the H2(SO4) making H3O+ and H(SO4)-. The H(SO4)- will react with more H2O to create another H3O+ and (SO4)(2-) (Sulfate).

Balanced:

H2(SO4)(L) + 2(H2O)(L)  :rarrow: 2(H3O+)(L) + SO4(2-)(S)


If this reaction is correct then, there should be a precipitate of Sulfate, though when watching videos of this mixture i see no solids formed. Where am i getting this wrong?
Thanks.

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Re: Sulfuric acid + water
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2017, 03:02:58 AM »
Why do you think there should be a precipitate? Just because you call something "sulfate" doesn't make it insoluble.

Yes, the acid dissociates, yes, the solution contains all the ions you have listed. These are equilibrium processes and there are methods of calculating extent of these reactions.
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Re: Sulfuric acid + water
« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2017, 04:03:13 PM »
ahhh ok, so sulfate is not insoluble. So, if i wanted to extract the sulfate i could filter it out? awesome.
ill have to do a little research on equilibrium processes, thank you.

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Re: Sulfuric acid + water
« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2017, 06:37:30 PM »
So, if i wanted to extract the sulfate i could filter it out?

You can filter out solids, you can't filter out ions.
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