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Conductive Liquid That Expands When Introduced To Power
« on: August 29, 2017, 10:28:08 PM »
How would I make a conductive liquid (or gel) that expands to around twice its size when introduced to electricity?
I just need to know how I could create it, what is needed, and the like.
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Re: Conductive Liquid That Expands When Introduced To Power
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2017, 04:01:39 AM »
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Electroactive polymers
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Re: Conductive Liquid That Expands When Introduced To Power
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2017, 08:02:58 AM »
I have attempted to create something that would accomplish the same end result, but none of them have to do with chemistry. I've used electromagnets suspended in a conductive carbon-based solution, and while the results were good, they would be susceptible to interference if another magnet was nearby.

I have next to no knowledge on Chemistry, so I came here to ask people who do.

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Re: Conductive Liquid That Expands When Introduced To Power
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2017, 10:48:58 AM »
I derived my hint from doing a GOOGLE search on
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conductive liquid (or gel) that expands
The WIKI article seemed very informative
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroactive_polymers
I have seen the Artificial muscles in a demo and thought something like this might help
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroactive_polymers#Artificial_muscles

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Re: Conductive Liquid That Expands When Introduced To Power
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2017, 01:54:51 PM »
Greetings MrMinall:, and welcome to the Chemical Forums.  You've been told twice already that you have to read our Forum Rules{click}. You already accepted them when you signed up for our forum, and they apply to you, whether you agree with them or not, or even if you're unaware of them.

The problem we may be having is that your posts are all over the place, and its hard to follow what you mean.  But lets try:

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How would I make a conductive liquid (or gel) that expands to around twice its size when introduced to electricity?

This sounds fantastical to me, although I don't know everything.  I'm afraid 'though, that your explanation isn't clear and through.  Example: the gel occupies a volume of 1 ml, you add electricity, it doubles in size.  Or the gel fills a 1 gallon bucket, and it swells to a two gallon size with the current of a AAA battery.

See the problem, you haven't framed the question precisely.  The second is ridiculous, but is the forst one plausible?  I don't know.

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I just need to know how I could create it, what is needed, and the like.

So, you just need everything?  That's why you should Google first.  That's part of our rules.

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Please submit serious responses.

Hrm.  This is a bad start, I have to tell you.  Asking people to comply with our forum rules is serious to us.  Removing spam and pseudoscience crackpottery is also serious for us.  Your question is poorly framed, making it lack serious work on your part.  I don't know where you're going with this.

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I have attempted to create something that would accomplish the same end result,

Peculiar.  That you would ask for everything, when you've already done it.

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but none of them have to do with chemistry.

That's also a peculiar statement.

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I've used electromagnets suspended in a conductive carbon-based solution,

OK.  This is nonsense.  Either woefully incomplete, or deliberate falsehood.  I'll trouble myself to ask more, but I don't expect information will be forthcoming.

Electromagnets?  How big.  How are they powered while suspended in fluid?

Carbon-based solution?  You mean an organic compound, or an aqueous solution of sucrose, or carbon nanotubules?

There is no described mechanism, by you, on how this "doubles" in size.

I could go on, but you can also be more forthcoming.
Hey, I'm not judging.  I just like to shoot straight.  I'm a man of science.

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