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Roughly how much nitric acid would you get from 1lb of nitrate salt?
« on: February 12, 2018, 04:01:36 PM »

Say sodium nitrate, whats the rough yield that you get per pound? Is it worth it to make yourself or better to just buy it? It runs about 70$per gallon where I live. Logged Borek • Mr. pH • Administrator • Deity Member • Mole Snacks: +1594/-393 • Offline • Gender: • Posts: 24262 • I am known to be occasionally wrong. Re: Roughly how much nitric acid would you get from 1lb of nitrate salt? « Reply #1 on: February 12, 2018, 08:44:41 PM » I doubt you will make it cheaper. Logged ChemBuddy chemical calculators - stoichiometry, pH, concentration, buffer preparation, titrations.info, pH-meter.info, PZWT_s1 Elric82 • Regular Member • Mole Snacks: +4/-0 • Offline • Posts: 14 Re: Roughly how much nitric acid would you get from 1lb of nitrate salt? « Reply #2 on: February 13, 2018, 11:48:49 AM » Where I live, I don’t think I can buy Nitric or sodium nitrate. But I can buy Potassium Nitrate for 11$ a pound. That’s only 4.486 moles. I ran a quick calculation, (I could be wrong) and at a 100% yield, that only yields 187.1 ml of nitric acid. That 11\$ doesn’t take into account if you have any sulfuric acid. Unless I’m way off(way low on theoretical yield), than Borek is correct for sure. I would almost bet you can’t buy anything higher than 60% Nitric though. I could be wrong.

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I just figured this based on potassium nitrate. I did not take into account the sulfuric, which I believe has to be in excess

@ Borek: If my calculations are wrong based on the nitrate salt that I have access to, can you let me know, so I can review what I have done wrong please?

After review, I would delete my post because I believe I’m way off. I don’t know how to delete my post. Nor do I know how to use sub/super script on this forum
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Re: Roughly how much nitric acid would you get from 1lb of nitrate salt?
« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2018, 09:41:11 PM »

187 mL of a pure nitric acid looks OK, yes, you need a strong acid in excess - plus you need to be able to collect and purify the acid, such a hardware doesn't come without a hefty price tag. Just nitrate is only a small part of the price.

Commercially available nitric acid is typically sold at ~68%, which is an azeotrope mixture with water.

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Re: Roughly how much nitric acid would you get from 1lb of nitrate salt?
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2018, 01:48:33 PM »

Ok, thanks for the responses. Looks like its best to just purchase. Thanks for doing the math as well!
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