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Offline MrBananaman

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Spontaneity in Redox reaction?
« on: April 06, 2018, 07:51:52 PM »
In an upcoming lab we're measuring how pH effects cell potential E. An equal concentration of quinone and hydroquinone is added to a beaker and its cell potential is measured against an Ag/AgCl cell. Easy enough so far.

The hydroquinone is then titrated with Fe(CN)63+. We do this to find the E of the hydroquinone at whatever the current pH it is, which should be the measured E at 1/2 volume to equivalence point. What I don't understand is why this reaction occurs.

Here are the half reactions:
Fe(CN)63+ + e- --> Fe(CN)64-      Eo=.356
Qu + 2H+ = 2e- --> H2Qu          Eo=.700

Because we're adding the Fe(CN)63+, it must be the one reduced. However, the Ecell is then:
E=.365-.7 = -.344

And this should mean a non-spontaneous reaction by
ΔG=-nFE

But clearly it's not, or we wouldn't be using it. What am I doing wrong?

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Re: Spontaneity in Redox reaction?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2018, 08:50:40 AM »
Think about your first sentence.

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Re: Spontaneity in Redox reaction?
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2018, 08:42:47 PM »
Aaah of course it's not spontaneous under standard conditions, but above a certain pH it will be. You can probably even find at what pH it changes using the Nernst equation.

Thank you for the tip!

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Re: Spontaneity in Redox reaction?
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2018, 09:42:36 PM »
The quinone system is an important one in the mitochondrial electron transport chain, and it has a value of E°' that is near zero.  The prime indicates that this is the biochemical standard state, which is pH 7, but everything else at 1 M.

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