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Offline Juaqui

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Coupling reagent, HBTU
« on: October 14, 2018, 06:35:45 PM »
Hi everyone,

I'm preparing a presentation about a synthesis of an oxazoline I did by coupling two amino acides with HBTU. But I don't understand why this coupling reagent avoids racemization (or why generates a low racemization). I mean, if I started with L-BOC-Phe, I got the oxazoline with the same absolute configuration than the amino acid I began. But what is the explanation about that?

Thank you very much!

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Re: Coupling reagent, HBTU
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2018, 05:01:34 AM »
Can you please show a reaction scheme? I did some work with oxazolines so I might be able to help you but Im having hard time immagining your reaction.

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Re: Coupling reagent, HBTU
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2018, 05:44:21 AM »
Thanks for answering.

https://ibb.co/ciGry0
This is the mechanism through I get the dipeptide with the HBTU. Here is where racemization doesn't take place (or in a very little amount).

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Re: Coupling reagent, HBTU
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2018, 04:01:56 AM »
Where is your oxazoline?  :'( :'(

I think the mechanism looks good, im not exactly sure about the reason why the racemization is reduced but my guess is that the alpha proton is not acidic enough when reagents like this are used (compare to acid chloride) and ketene cant be formed.


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Re: Coupling reagent, HBTU
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2018, 07:15:37 AM »
Kriggy,

I didn't share the formation of the oxazoline because the step with the HBTU is this. I don't understand you. I know what a ketene is but, what does it have to do with the stereochemistry?
Isn't racemization a thing about how much you can cover a face of the molecule with, in this case, HBTU? My question is, why is in this dipeptide the quiral atoms  with the same configuration than they had in the amino acides?

Thank you for your answers!!! :)

P.D: I'll share you the mechanism of the formation of the oxazoline... maybe I'm confused and it is an important step for avoiding racemization.
https://ibb.co/dquty0

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Re: Coupling reagent, HBTU
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2018, 04:50:27 PM »
Racemization occurs mostly because of oxazolone formation, but enolate is also possible.
https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S1319610310001584-gr8.jpg
HOBt forms "active ester" with activated carboxylic moiety. This "active ester" is highly susceptible toward nucleophilic attack of amine group but isn't reactive enough to form oxazolone (unlike tetramethyuronium species).


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Re: Coupling reagent, HBTU
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2018, 04:19:49 AM »
Kriggy,

I didn't share the formation of the oxazoline because the step with the HBTU is this. I don't understand you. I know what a ketene is but, what does it have to do with the stereochemistry?
Isn't racemization a thing about how much you can cover a face of the molecule with, in this case, HBTU? My question is, why is in this dipeptide the quiral atoms  with the same configuration than they had in the amino acides?

Thank you for your answers!!! :)

P.D: I'll share you the mechanism of the formation of the oxazoline... maybe I'm confused and it is an important step for avoiding racemization.
https://ibb.co/dquty0


Never mind, I thought you are talking abou thte oxazoline...

Anyway, the point of ketene is that ketene (or enolate) is planar and when it gets decomposed into the amino acid by protonation again, the proton can protonate both sides therefore forming enantiomers.
I think the scheme by PdG3 is very spot on and exactly what you are looking for.

The exact reasons why those reagents supress reacemization.. I would think it could be combination of low alpha-H acidity with sterical hinderance.. I was looking a bit into it while ago but couldnt find any good explanations

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Re: Coupling reagent, HBTU
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2018, 09:28:14 AM »
Hey guys,

I'm really thankful for your answers. It has been of very help for me.
Tomorrow, in my presentation, I'm going to explain it from the point of view of the formation of the carbanion in alpha proton, and because of its planarity, if the base protonates again that C, racemization will occur.

Regards!  8)

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