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Title: Organic chemistry question.
Post by: windom626 on November 06, 2019, 11:57:32 AM
Hello everyone,

im a medicine student from Poland who likes chemistry. I don't have anyone to ask some of my questions from... i guess quite basic organic chemistry. Im learning for myself from McMurrey book, and some questions are not so easy to answer for me and i dont have confidence to think that im right. So...here is my question.

From Lewis theory of acids and bases:

How will react HCl (acid) with CH3CH2OH, NH(CH3)2, P(CH3)3 (bases)?

Title: Re: Organic chemistry question.
Post by: rolnor on November 06, 2019, 01:23:51 PM
Wich of your compounds is more basic? Does alcohol form salts?
Title: Re: Organic chemistry question.
Post by: windom626 on November 06, 2019, 05:27:49 PM
CH3CH2OH, NH(CH3)2, P(CH3)3 they are the bases in reaction with HCl, because acid strenght of HCl is greater then those other compouds. So they must be in this case "bases".

No, i've forgotten that alcohols do not form salts :P
Title: Re: Organic chemistry question.
Post by: AWK on November 06, 2019, 05:43:49 PM
Using curved arrows, show how the species in part (a) can act as Lewis bases in their reactions with HCl.... so just treat these compounds as Lewis bases (just a nonbonding electron pair is sufficient)
Title: Re: Organic chemistry question.
Post by: windom626 on November 07, 2019, 06:16:00 AM
Like this? I took photo of my notebook :P
https://www.flickr.com/photos/185390076@N03/49027750328/in/dateposted-public/
Title: Re: Organic chemistry question.
Post by: AWK on November 07, 2019, 06:39:15 AM
The oxygen atom between the hydrogen and sulfur atoms in the bottom line is missing.
More attention, please.
Title: Re: Organic chemistry question.
Post by: windom626 on November 07, 2019, 06:41:39 AM
Oh, that's right, thanks. The rest is good?
Title: Re: Organic chemistry question.
Post by: AWK on November 07, 2019, 06:59:54 AM
In the textbook, a few lines above this question you can find a detailed mechanism of a similar reaction,
of course, not exactly for this reaction.
Title: Re: Organic chemistry question.
Post by: windom626 on November 07, 2019, 07:14:01 AM
Yes i see it. So it's good.