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Offline antimatter101

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Strange optics
« on: April 14, 2013, 07:04:28 AM »
I just finished the chapter on stereochemistry. I recall that the specific rotation of Penicillin V (Phenoxymethylpenicillin) is =233 degrees. But it exceeds 180 degrees! Shouldn't it be -127 degrees instead? You will know if you learnt angles.

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Re: Strange optics
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2013, 09:42:39 AM »
I just finished the chapter on stereochemistry. I recall that the specific rotation of Penicillin V (Phenoxymethylpenicillin) is =233 degrees. But it exceeds 180 degrees! Shouldn't it be -127 degrees instead? You will know if you learnt angles.

Possibly, but this could be resolved by taking measurements at e.g. different concentrations. There is nothing to stop a specific rotation even being in the range of -359.99999...° ≤ θ ≤ 359.99999...°

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Re: Strange optics
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2013, 09:57:55 AM »
Specific rotation [α] is not measured in degrees - it is often quoted in degrees, but this is a common mistake.

The calculation is:

[α] = 100α/cl

Where α = measured rotation (deg); c = concentration (g/100cm3); l = path length (dm)

So the units are:

(100 deg 100 cm3)/(g dm) = 104 deg cm3 g-1 dm-

or 103 deg cm2 g-1

it is the measured rotation α that is in degrees, and the polarimeter can not distinguish +233 from -127. However, the specific rotation of Penicillin V was probably* measured under the following (conventional) conditions:

c = 1.0 g/100cm3
l = 1.0 dm

in that case, we know [α] = +233 103 deg cm2 g-1, and that:

233 = 100α/(1.0 x 1.0)

So in this case the measured rotation α = +2.33 deg.

There is little ambiguity here, because the other possibility is that the α = -357.67 deg, which is not practically realistic for a dilute solution.


*If you have the concentration and path length at which [α] was measured (should be given at the source), you can calculate the value of α (in derees) that was measured in the experiment.
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Re: Strange optics
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2013, 06:45:24 AM »
Thanks, I was a bit dumb.

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