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Title: Organic finals
Post by: nanotube on August 25, 2012, 06:09:59 AM
Hi guys

I've got my finals in organic chemistry (2 Ba Biochemistry) in a few days. I managed to find some
questions from the previous year, but not the answers. (to check my solutions)  ???
So if anyone has some spare time (and want to test their own knowledge), I would really
appreciate if you could solve 1 or few things.

Thx in advance  ;)
Title: Re: Organic finals
Post by: discodermolide on August 25, 2012, 06:13:48 AM
Hi guys

I've got my finals in organic chemistry (2 Ba Biochemistry) in a few days. I managed to find some
questions from the previous year, but not the answers. (to check my solutions)  ???
So if anyone has some spare time (and want to test their own knowledge), I would really
appreciate if you could solve 1 or few things.

Thx in adnvance  ;)

Reaction 1 is a Diels-Alder reaction.
What about your answers, it's a bit much to go through!
Title: Re: Organic finals
Post by: Borek on August 25, 2012, 06:20:03 AM
Post a question, post what you think is a correct solution - that's the only way we work here.
Title: Re: Organic finals
Post by: nanotube on August 25, 2012, 06:27:33 AM
Alright, I'll post my answers in a bit.
Title: Re: Organic finals
Post by: nanotube on August 25, 2012, 07:09:13 AM
This is what I've got for the first part.

(multi-synthesis will follow in a bit)
Title: Re: Organic finals
Post by: rrr_asd on August 25, 2012, 08:10:11 AM
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Title: Re: Organic finals
Post by: discodermolide on August 25, 2012, 08:15:31 AM
This is what I've got for the first part.

(multi-synthesis will follow in a bit)

Re-think numbers 2, 3, 5, 6 (structure wrong), 8, 9 (structure wrong), 10, 11, 12

Title: Re: Organic finals
Post by: rrr_asd on August 25, 2012, 08:41:09 AM
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Title: Re: Organic finals
Post by: nanotube on August 25, 2012, 08:48:23 AM
2: will all the allylic groups be brominated ?
3 and 10: isn't Friedel–Crafts reaction prohibited with meta-directors ?
6: why ?
8: benzyne elimination-addition is the only one I know to carry out this reaction
9: see image
11: my fault, typo
12: ah yes I see
Title: Re: Organic finals
Post by: rrr_asd on August 25, 2012, 08:49:00 AM
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Title: Re: Organic finals
Post by: rrr_asd on August 25, 2012, 08:51:23 AM
This is what I've got for the first part.

(multi-synthesis will follow in a bit)

Re-think numbers 2, 3, 5, 6 (structure wrong), 8, 9 (structure wrong), 10, 11, 12



Numbers 2, 9 are correct.
Title: Re: Organic finals
Post by: rrr_asd on August 25, 2012, 08:55:01 AM

3 and 10: isn't Friedel–Crafts reaction prohibited with meta-directors ?


Yes, it is.
Title: Re: Organic finals
Post by: discodermolide on August 25, 2012, 08:58:49 AM
2: will all the allylic groups be brominated ?
3 and 10: isn't Friedel–Crafts reaction prohibited with meta-directors ?
6: why ?
8: benzyne elimination-addition is the only one I know to carry out this reaction
9: see image
11: my fault, typo
12: ah yes I see


Number 9 is incorrect you start with an di-ester and alkylate the middle carbon with allyl bromide.
Title: Re: Organic finals
Post by: nanotube on August 25, 2012, 09:29:14 AM

Number 9 is incorrect you start with an di-ester and alkylate the middle carbon with allyl bromide.

So basicly the first solution is correct ?
Title: Re: Organic finals
Post by: discodermolide on August 25, 2012, 09:30:23 AM

Number 9 is incorrect you start with an di-ester and alkylate the middle carbon with allyl bromide.

So basicly the first solution is correct ?
no because you missed out a carbon atom it is an allyl bromide.
Title: Re: Organic finals
Post by: nanotube on August 25, 2012, 09:34:58 AM
@discodermolide:Thanx yes, my bad, I didn't see it. But can you explain 6 please ?

@rrr_asd : thank you so much for the effort of making the multi step synthesis. I've had all of them, except sometimes I a few few steps I different order.
Title: Re: Organic finals
Post by: discodermolide on August 25, 2012, 09:40:30 AM
@discodermolide:Thanx yes, my bad, I didn't see it. But can you explain 6 please ?

@rrr_asd : thank you so much for the effort of making the multi step synthesis. I've had all of them, except sometimes I a few few steps I different order.

HI deprotects the methyl ether (OMe) and gives the phenol.