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how to find the standard cell reduction potential
« on: January 27, 2011, 10:24:07 PM »
write the balanced redox reaction, determine E* cell (*= zero) for
1. the reduction of dichromate ions to chromium (3) ions by Mn 2+, forming MnO2.
2. the oxidation of As O3 (3-) to H2AsO4 by the reduction of iodine to iodide ions.
 I could not find the std redctn potential values for these polyatomic iosn as I found for the individual ions from the table. anyone pls help me with this problem?

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« Last Edit: January 28, 2011, 12:47:49 PM by Borek »
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Re: how to find the standard cell reduction potential
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2011, 07:17:35 AM »
Thank you Borek. That link gave me the direct vaules for the half reactions. I need to know one more thing because in my book the table does not have all the values like this one.... but still if I am asked to solve the problem is there any other alternative way that I should take into acccount. say for eg... 

the answer given to those 2 eqtns were:
1.     2H^+  +Cr207^2- +3Mn^2+  ----->3MnO2 + 2Cr^3+  +H20
        E^0cell =  +1.33V - (+1.23v) = +0.10v

2.     H20  + As03^3-  +I2  ------->H2AsO4^- +2I^-
        E^0Ccell   =+o.54V-  (+0.58V) = -0.04V
I have the values for the H+ reaction and 02 reactions and Mn and for Cr3+. Not for the Cr207 or H2AsO4.does this mean I should combine any 2 reaction(like H2+ and Mn and O2 values for the first one and combine H+ and AsO3 for the 2nd one) to get the correct value of ONE half reaction or is that totally a wrong approach?

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Re: how to find the standard cell reduction potential
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2011, 08:56:18 AM »
Determine HALF reactions first. And write them here, so that we both know what you are talking about.
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Re: how to find the standard cell reduction potential
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2011, 11:58:04 AM »

The question says:
write the balanced redox reaction,and  determine E* cell (*= zero) for
1. the reduction of dichromate ions to chromium (3) ions by Mn 2+, forming MnO2.

2. the oxidation of As O3 (3-) to H2AsO4 by the reduction of iodine to iodide ions.


the answer given to those 2 eqtns were:
1.     2H^+  +Cr207^2- +3Mn^2+  ----->3MnO2 + 2Cr^3+  +H20
        E^0cell =  +1.33V - (+1.23v) = +0.10v

2.     H20  + AsO3^3-  +I2  ------->H2AsO4^- +2I^-
        E^0Ccell   =+o.54V-  (+0.58V) = -0.04V
Only the qstn and answer like shown above was all given in the book.

This is how I tried to solve:

1. 14H^+   + Cr207^2-  ---> 2Cr^3+ + 7H20 +4e-
Cr is oxidised from 2- to 3+
so this is the  oxidation half-reaction.
   
3Mn^2+  6H20 +6e- ----> 3MnO2 +  12H^+
Mn is reduced from 2+ to 0
So this is the redctn half-reaction.

E* cell =E cathode- E anode


2.H20 + AsO3^3-   ----->H2AsO4^-  +2e-
 As changes from -3 to -1 charge. so oxidation half-rctn.

I2 +2e-  -----> 2I^-
Iodine changes from 0 to -2 .so reduction half-reaction.
After this step im stuck in finding the E cathode and E anode values from the table
because I dont see any values for these half reactions specifically.
can u pls help me where I am going wrong?
thanks

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Re: how to find the standard cell reduction potential
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2011, 12:50:56 PM »
2.H20 + AsO3^3-   ----->H2AsO4^-  +2e-
 As changes from -3 to -1 charge. so oxidation half-rctn.

This is not different from the reaction of oxidation of H3AsO3 to H3AsO4. you may need to account for pH to calculate exact potential (after all that's what the Nernst equation is for), but data from the wikipedia page is enough.
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Re: how to find the standard cell reduction potential
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2011, 06:57:50 PM »
Thanx  a lot Borek for heling me with the infos :). I will get them from the wiki table.

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