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Confusing reaction
« on: June 17, 2013, 01:33:49 AM »
I'm a bit unsure of what's happening in this reaction. I have to give the product for the reaction attached.

I know that the answer is,

c1ccccc1C#C

but I am unsure of how this happened and have no idea of where to start!
I'm not even too sure of what that first compound is. I first tried to do the reaction like that first compound was an acyl chloride but it didn't seem to work out.
Any hints?


Just looking at it a few hours later, it wouldn't be a nucleophilic substitution would it?
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Re: Confusing reaction
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2013, 06:37:05 AM »
This is the synthesis of an alkyne from a vinyl halide.

Compare the formulas: C8H7Cl  :rarrow: C8H6

What has changed - has something been added/eliminated/substituted?

What kind of a reagent is NaNH2 (acid/base/nucleophile/electrophile)?
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Re: Confusing reaction
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2013, 07:18:50 AM »
This is the synthesis of an alkyne from a vinyl halide.

Compare the formulas: C8H7Cl  :rarrow: C8H6

What has changed - has something been added/eliminated/substituted?

What kind of a reagent is NaNH2 (acid/base/nucleophile/electrophile)?


The Cl has been eliminated and and extra bond formed to make a triple bond.

NaNH2 is basic isn't it?  I think I can just ignore the Na? Which would make the compound NH2-. Which would make it a nucleophile!

So would I push the electrons in the Cl-C bond onto Cl, and attack the resulting positive charge on the C atom with the nucleophile? But then that just makes an amine. I assume at this point the H3O+ comes into it.

So at the moment I have

c1ccccc1C(N)=C

I don't think that's right. Have I gone wrong somewhere? That compound looks stable.
If I'm correct, I think that the H3O+ would still react with the NH2?

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Re: Confusing reaction
« Reply #3 on: June 17, 2013, 07:54:19 AM »
Its elimination not substitution. What else reaction can do NH2-?

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Re: Confusing reaction
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2013, 02:20:42 PM »
Its elimination not substitution. What else reaction can do NH2-?

Whoops. Sorry. Well the NH2 being basic can deprontonate stuff.  But I didn't think that applied here seeing as there was no hydrogen involved.

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