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synthesis question for paper work
« on: January 06, 2014, 08:45:16 PM »
Can someone tell me that, the posted synthesis way is possible on paper? Or give a little help for a different way, which possibly works good in lab:)

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Re: synthesis question for paper work
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2014, 07:58:14 AM »
Probably yes, but not in one pot.

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Re: synthesis question for paper work
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2014, 08:14:49 AM »
I think the benzyl alcohol is a bit sterically hindered for it to react with phthalic anhydride. I seem to remember that you can buy the mono-acid chloride-mono methylester of phthalic acid from Aldrich? That would be more reactive.
ClC(C1=CC=CC=C1C(OC)=O)=O
methyl 2-(chlorocarbonyl)benzoate

Then you would need to remove the other ester.
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Re: synthesis question for paper work
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2014, 09:01:39 AM »
Probably yes, but not in one pot.

This comment is prescient here as the reactions are incomplete. Only the Grignard reaction is the solvent listed. No workup of the Friedel-Crafts acylation is given and no proton source for its reaction with the Grignard.

Disco's comment is a good one, though I don't think the person designing the problem anticipated a solution so difficult. None the less, the acylation needs a catalyst to proceed. I think steric hindrance will affect the rate more than the equilibrium. Phthalic acid mono-t-butyl ester has been reported, so I expect the reaction should succeed, but probably not without a catalyst.
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Re: synthesis question for paper work
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2014, 10:27:04 AM »
Thank you for the answers!

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