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Offline dagree

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Tributylphosphine vs tributylphosphine oxide
« on: November 16, 2010, 01:56:42 AM »
Hi

I've just bought some tributylphosphine to do a Mitsunobu reaction, but I want to test for impurities of tributylphosphine oxide. What is the best way to do this? Normally I would use NMR, but there doesn't seem to be that big of a difference between the two compounds. Any suggestions?

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Re: Tributylphosphine vs tributylphosphine oxide
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2010, 02:05:48 AM »
Do you have 31P NMR capabilities?  I imagine those shifts would be quite different.  I suppose you could try GC, don't have a lot of experience to tell if those will fly though.

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Re: Tributylphosphine vs tributylphosphine oxide
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2010, 02:30:30 AM »
No 31P unfortunately. I've tryed GC/MS and got two peaks of about the same intensity, but neither had the right mass, which is a bit puzzling.

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Re: Tributylphosphine vs tributylphosphine oxide
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2010, 02:43:22 AM »
BTW, it says on the bottle that it is a mixture of two isomers (?), which could explain the two GC-peaks, but not the missing mass peak.

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Re: Tributylphosphine vs tributylphosphine oxide
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2010, 03:57:07 AM »
Try HPLC.
Use reference standards of both of then

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Re: Tributylphosphine vs tributylphosphine oxide
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2010, 04:49:39 AM »
I just had a talk with our NMR-expert and it turns out that our equipment can be set up for 31P NMR, so I'll give that a try.

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Re: Tributylphosphine vs tributylphosphine oxide
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2010, 06:17:49 AM »
31P NMR showed one large peak at -30 ppm (and a couple of smaller ones), which fits the un-oxidized Bu3P - yay ;)

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