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Analytical Chemistry Forum / Re: Hardness-Titration
« Last post by serotonin on May 03, 2024, 07:57:08 PM »
I'm sorry for asking this again, I'm not good with titrations and my brain is stuck. Should I do half titration as well? For equivalence would: [CaEDTA] = 10^10 * (0.01 mol/L)^2 be somewhat correct? as Ca2+ and EDTA are identical.
(Given that the volume of the solution titrated is 100 mL (V=100 mL) and the amount of EDTA solution added is 10 mL, the initial concentration of EDTA can be calculated as:
Initial concentration of EDTA = (0.1 mol/L) * (10 mL / 100 mL) = 0.01 mol/L) I know it's same as before, but for some reason I can not get it. Thank you very much for your help. SO SO appreciative
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Analytical Chemistry Forum / Re: Hardness-Titration
« Last post by Borek on May 03, 2024, 05:36:04 PM »
For half titration you should assume EDTA reacted with Ca2+ in the solution completely, and plug known concentrations into Kf, the only unknown will be the EDTA concentration.

That's only an approximation (to get the more exact value you should use ICE table), but typically gives acceptable accuracy.

It won't work for equivalence point though. There you can assume you have solution equivalent to the one prepared by dissolving just the proper amount of CaEDTA and calculating how much of it dissociated (hint: concentrations of Ca2+ and unreacted EDTA will be identical). Again, use Kf.
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The point of the posts was that there are other ways to detect chitinase.  A quick search showed this one using elisa instead of chromatogrophy.  If you check the background on how the kits were developed, there you might find information useful to your project.
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Analytical Chemistry Forum / Re: Hardness-Titration
« Last post by serotonin on May 03, 2024, 04:07:16 PM »
Thank you so much for replying, I appreciate it.

I'm not sure about EDTA concentration. Should I say: nEDTA/volume=(0.1mol/L*0.01L*0.0005mol)/0.105L instead?

For equivalent point, it gives Kf=1*10^10. I thought saying: Kf= (CaEDTA2-)/((Ca2+)*(EDTA4-))=1*10^10 then put 0.1M for both Ca2+ and EDTA. But I don't think that's correct.

Would there be any chance of guiding me a bit about Ca-EDTA concentration? If not, completely understandable.
Thank you again SO much for your help.
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Analytical Chemistry Forum / Re: Hardness-Titration
« Last post by Borek on May 03, 2024, 03:12:13 PM »
So far I've tried: nEDTA=(0.1*0.01)=0.001mol, nCaCO3=0.001mol (reaction 1:1)
Conversion: mCaCO3=n*molar mass=0.10009g then mg/L=mCaCO3*VH2O*1000mg/g=1000,9mg/L

OK

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Then, after adding 5mL of titrant: cCaCO3=molesCa2+/VH2O=0.0005*0.105L=0.00475mol/L,

That's a reasonably good answer.

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For the equivalent point, I thought of using cAvA=cBvB => (0.1)(0.1)=cB(0.01) but Im not sure.

No. You need stability constant here.

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For EDTA concentration" (10-5mL)=> nEDTA/vH2O=(0.1mol/L * 0.01L * 0.0005mol)/(0.01L-0.005L)=0.1mol/L

No. EDTA reacted with the Ca2+, so its concentration is much lower.

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Ca-EDTA: 0.1mol/L - 0.00476mol/L = 0.09524mol/L

Close, but you forgot the dilution (total concentration of Ca in both complexed and free form is no longer 0.1M)

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(Not sure) should volume after adding be 100mL+5mL?

Yes, and most your calculations already take this into account, just not all.

compare http://www.titrations.info/titration-curve-calculation
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Analytical Chemistry Forum / Concentration Cell
« Last post by serotonin on May 03, 2024, 02:45:56 PM »
Electrical impulses are the cause of the heartbeat and arise from a remarkable combination of electrochemistry and the properties of semipermeable cell membranes regarding a number of physiologically important ions (Na+, K+, Ca2+). The concentrations of these ions differ for intracellular fluids (ICF) and extracellular fluids (ECF). In cardiac muscle cells the ICF and ECF concentrations of K+ are approximately 135 and 4 mM, respectively. The difference in ion concentration between the ICF and ECF fluids produces a concentration cell~(...) Despite the fact that ions are present on both sides of the membrane, a potential difference is created, calculated through the Nernst equation, with E°=0. After this brief introduction, show whether the process of entering potassium (K+) ions into heart cells is a spontaneous process. ii) Ascent, descent? Electron flow ?

I've tried: ICF:135MM, ECF 4MM => Q=135/4>1 flow anode->cathode.
Would it be correct to say that it's not spontaneous as a concentration cell is non-spontaneous. What else could I add? Thanks for any help :)
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Analytical Chemistry Forum / Hardness-Titration
« Last post by serotonin on May 03, 2024, 02:24:10 PM »
Please help?!:/
We titrate a solution containing calcium ions (Ca2+), V=100 mL, with EDTA solution 0.1 M. The end point is determined at 10 mL. What is the equivalent point of the process? Based on the reaction, calculate the total hardness of the sample in mol/L CaCO 3 and mg/L CaCO3. Calculate the content of calcium ions (Ca2+) as [Ca2+] and the contents [EDTA ] and [Ca2+-EDTA ] after adding 5mL of titrant. Explain based on reactions.

So far I've tried: nEDTA=(0.1*0.01)=0.001mol, nCaCO3=0.001mol (reaction 1:1)
Conversion: mCaCO3=n*molar mass=0.10009g then mg/L=mCaCO3*VH2O*1000mg/g=1000,9mg/L

Then, after adding 5mL of titrant: cCaCO3=molesCa2+/VH2O=0.0005*0.105L=0.00475mol/L,
For the equivalent point, I thought of using cAvA=cBvB => (0.1)(0.1)=cB(0.01) but Im not sure.
For EDTA concentration" (10-5mL)=> nEDTA/vH2O=(0.1mol/L * 0.01L * 0.0005mol)/(0.01L-0.005L)=0.1mol/L
Ca-EDTA: 0.1mol/L - 0.00476mol/L = 0.09524mol/L
(Not sure) should volume after adding be 100mL+5mL?

Any help is MUCH appreciated. Thank you.
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Organic Chemistry Forum / Re: Is SOCl2 needed?
« Last post by Babcock_Hall on May 03, 2024, 08:52:42 AM »
@OP, Is this a homework assignment, or are you doing this reaction in a laboratory?
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That's chitinase test kit.  Sorry, spell checker. It's chitinase3-like 1 human.  Whether it would work, probable not.  But it might point you in the right direction.
Also, do you know any DIY ways of increasing the chitinase concentration in extracts from chitinase-rich foods? That is, some increase in chitinase activity that does not require complex stuff like chromatographs or chemicals that are only sold to institutions.
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That's chitinase test kit.  Sorry, spell checker. It's chitinase3-like 1 human.  Whether it would work, probable not.  But it might point you in the right direction.
I am asking for information on measurements that have already been done, not advertisement for products. And given that the plants did evolve the chitinase, it should have some effects on at least fungi, possibly also small insects. Do you know any information on activity levels?
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