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Title: shells , orbitals
Post by: aeacfm on October 19, 2011, 06:06:21 PM

it makes me confused a little bit because i cant imagine it
the orbitals and the shells

i cant imagine the position of these orbitals in the whole principle shell
does this principle shell include the orbitals??? or it is only imaginary circular lines so that we can arrange these orbitalsalsals

i know that the orbitals are probability . so is the principle shell also probability or accurate?????
can some one indicate with pictures ?

Title: Re: shells , orbitals
Post by: Jeremy on October 19, 2011, 06:47:44 PM

I'm not sure exactly what it is you're asking. The shells you're talking about are actually quantisised energy levels. An orbital is a region of space where an electron is found.

Title: Re: shells , orbitals
Post by: fledarmus on October 19, 2011, 06:49:22 PM

Try this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_orbital (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_orbital)

Title: Re: shells , orbitals
Post by: aeacfm on October 19, 2011, 07:47:42 PM

Quote from: Jeremy on October 19, 2011, 06:47:44 PM

The shells you're talking about are actually quantisised energy levels. An orbital is a region of space where an electron is found.

thats exactly what iam asking for ((( what is a quantized energy level mean ((( imaginary orbit to determine e- energy or also probability )))  how orbits arranged in successive levels

Title: Re: shells , orbitals
Post by: aeacfm on October 19, 2011, 08:00:24 PM

may be you can correct to me in this  figure http://www11.0zz0.com/2011/10/19/23/647378338.png (http://www11.0zz0.com/2011/10/19/23/647378338.png)

Title: Re: shells , orbitals
Post by: Jeremy on October 19, 2011, 08:02:08 PM

Maybe reading through this will help you: http://www.chemguide.co.uk/atoms/propsmenu.html#top

Title: Re: shells , orbitals
Post by: fledarmus on October 19, 2011, 08:20:04 PM

Quote from: aeacfm on October 19, 2011, 08:00:24 PM

may be you can correct to me in this  figure http://www11.0zz0.com/2011/10/19/23/647378338.png (http://www11.0zz0.com/2011/10/19/23/647378338.png)

There are also pictures in the wiki article I linked earlier  ;)

Title: Re: shells , orbitals
Post by: aeacfm on October 19, 2011, 08:35:15 PM

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There are also pictures in the wiki article I linked earlier  ;)
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 but every one alone , i need them arranged in the atom , i hope u understand me

Title: Re: shells , orbitals
Post by: Borek on October 20, 2011, 02:37:45 AM

Yes, they do overlap in space, so your picture is more or less right.