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react or not to react
« on: May 08, 2006, 09:42:37 AM »
1) Heating Cl5W-(C(Me)2)-CH3 
2) C5H11Br + Mg
3) Fe(C5H10)2 + I2

what if anything would be produced by these reactions please.
I thought maybe Br2 gas on number 2.
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Re: react or not to react
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2006, 10:18:33 AM »
I think for number 2, it will result in Grignard reagents which is C5H11MgBr

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Re: react or not to react
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2006, 01:08:32 PM »
1) Heating Cl5W-(C(Me)2)-CH3 
2) C5H11Br + Mg
3) Fe(C5H10)2 + I2

what if anything would be produced by these reactions please.
I thought maybe Br2 gas on number 2.


1) I believe this would result in the oxidation of the tungsten to form a dimerized coordination complex with a W-W bond.
2) This would form the Grignard reagent C5H11MgBr, as victor has already noted.
3) Are you sure the first compound here is not Fe(C5H5)2 (ferrocene)?  If it is, the reaction you are looking for might be the oxidation-reduction reaction between ferrocene (oxidized) and iodine (reduced).

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Re: react or not to react
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2006, 11:52:41 PM »
Thank`s for replies.
1) anymore help on this one?
3) no, it`s the correct formula, maybe a made up one for theory purposes

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Re: react or not to react
« Reply #4 on: June 07, 2006, 06:50:10 AM »
Thank`s for replies.
1) anymore help on this one?
3) no, it`s the correct formula, maybe a made up one for theory purposes
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grignard_reagent
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrocene
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Re: react or not to react
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2006, 08:09:12 AM »
Would 1) just rearrange the groups?
Like the one or more methyl`s swap with chlorine`s.
there is only one tungsten atom, so I can`t see how a W-W bond arise.

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Re: react or not to react
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2006, 01:38:08 AM »
the products of reaction 2) would be Grignard reagents

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Re: react or not to react
« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2006, 02:12:01 PM »
It`s 1) I still can`t fathom.

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Re: react or not to react
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2006, 02:39:01 AM »
One of the products from 1 being heated should most likely be Cl2.
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Re: react or not to react
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2006, 04:34:32 AM »
I wondered about that , but it`s apparently just one product formed upon heating - if any.

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