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« on: July 11, 2013, 07:06:14 AM »
hello,
I tried to solve this problem and I dont know if it is good.

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Re: NMR
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2013, 07:09:03 AM »
The signals in the aromatic portion of the spectrum indicate a different substitution pattern of the ring.
See if you can figure it out.
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Re: NMR
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2013, 07:15:14 AM »
yes I corect it to para - I made a mistake in drawing.
but- is it true that the N and O are conented togheter?
 or should it be a different mulecule/


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Re: NMR
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2013, 07:24:54 AM »
That's OK. I have no problem with N and O being connected, Look up Weinreb Amides.
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Re: NMR
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2013, 12:06:47 PM »
I think you need to reconsider the structure.  I agree with the para substitution of the ring but why do you think the nitrogen and oxygen are joined together?  Also on your 2nd structure you have only 2 bonds to the nitrogen.

The evidence is:
- para substituted aromatic ring - 2 peaks at ~7ppm with integration of 2H each

- CH3 group next to 2H - triplet ~1ppm with integration of 3H
- CH2 next to 3H - quartet ~4ppm with integration of 2H
this is most likely CH2CH3

- CH3 group not coupled to any other H - single peak ~2ppm with integration of 3H

- X-H not coupled to any other H - single peak ~9ppm with integration of 1H 
X is N or O given the shift

Can you put this info together to give another structure that a chemspider search will show matches up exactly with the attached spectra including the peaks marked as impurities/TMS

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Re: NMR
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2013, 03:47:09 PM »
yes I corect it to para - I made a mistake in drawing.
but- is it true that the N and O are conented togheter?
 or should it be a different mulecule/


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the second picture is a correction- don't pay attention to the first.

thank you ahead.

This structure only has nine carbons.

Hint, the N and O are not connected. (There are only a few ways the remaining atoms can be connected once the para substituted benzene ring is taken into account.)
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Re: NMR
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2013, 04:09:29 PM »
thank you all. my new answer is attached.

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