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Title: Tolerance of 50 mL buret and accuracy of reading
Post by: spirochete on June 10, 2013, 01:22:41 PM
A Class A 50 mL buret is said to have a tolerance of ±0.05 mL. Yet it is typically said that a Class A 50 mL buret can be read to ±0.01 mL.

How can both of these things be true at the same time?
Title: Re: Tolerance of 50 mL buret and accuracy of reading
Post by: Arkcon on June 10, 2013, 01:47:24 PM
I would assume because "tolerance" and "what it can be read to" each have a definition that is likely similar to, but not the same as, each other.  And very possibly neither is a synonym for "accuracy."  What can you pull together from textbook definitions for each term?
Title: Re: Tolerance of 50 mL buret and accuracy of reading
Post by: Borek on June 10, 2013, 02:23:31 PM
It is not different from having a voltmeter that shows 3 digits, but is known to have accuracy ±5%. Just because it displays something, doesn't mean it is right, right?
Title: Re: Tolerance of 50 mL buret and accuracy of reading
Post by: curiouscat on June 10, 2013, 02:41:33 PM
I'm still confused how he can read it to 0.01 ml.

That'd mean every ml range was sub-divided 100 times. That'd need 5000 marks on the 50 ml burette.

Something doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Tolerance of 50 mL buret and accuracy of reading
Post by: spirochete on June 11, 2013, 12:42:38 PM
Unfortunately I can't look up "can be read to" in a glossary.  As for tolerance, it's defined as "manufacturer's stated uncertainty in the accuracy of a device. . ."

So tolerance is clearly an uncertainty in accuracy.  I believe that reading a buret to ±whatever is an indication of the precision to which it can be read.  So probably this is just a classic case of accuracy vs. precision that they teach you about in the first ten minutes of gen chem. I feel silly now. Thank you for your helpful comments.
Title: Re: Tolerance of 50 mL buret and accuracy of reading
Post by: Arkcon on June 11, 2013, 01:46:48 PM
Don't feel bad.  I'm always pointing the precision/accuracy dichotomy out, and then I went and screwed it up myself this morning.  http://www.chemicalforums.com/index.php?topic=68895.msg248209#msg248209