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Title: More species react?
Post by: ashyyamora on November 01, 2017, 07:37:38 PM
Newcomer to the forum here, so I'm not sure if I'm posting this in the right place nor in the right format, so please correct me on that.

A question found on an online Chemistry 12 exam was:
Consider the following equilibrium system:
C(s) + 2H2 ::equil:: CH4(g) + 75kJ
State three different ways to make more C(s) react.

The answers were:
Any three of the following:
• add H2
• remove CH4
• decrease temperature
• increase pressure/decrease volume

I was confused though because doesn't "More C(s) reacting" just mean that the reaction rate of C(s) is higher and more solid carbon is being used, regardless of how much solid carbon is being produced? Wouldn't decreasing the temperature actually decrease the rate of all the chemical species, including C(s), and therefore mean less C(s) is reacting? And would things like adding a catalyst, or increasing the surface area of the solid carbon also increase the reaction rate of C(s), making more C(s) react, regardless of the fact that just as much C(s) is being produced?

The explanation I was given is that "make more C(s) react" means the same thing as shifting to the right. However, shifting to the right just means more C(s) is reacting than being produced, not necessarily that more C(s) is reacting than it was before, so I don't understand the answer.

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: More species react?
Post by: Borek on November 02, 2017, 04:12:25 AM
You are mistaking kinetics for equilibrium. Yes, lower temperature means slower reactions, but how much C(s) (note: (s) should not be a subscript) reacts in the end depends not on how fast the reaction is, but where the equilibrium lies.
Title: Re: More species react?
Post by: XeLa. on November 02, 2017, 07:13:29 AM
note: (s) should not be a subscript

Some textbooks do list state symbols as subscripts, but it is more convenient and easier to read when state symbols are written as (s).
Title: Re: More species react?
Post by: Borek on November 02, 2017, 08:01:35 AM
note: (s) should not be a subscript

Some textbooks do list state symbols as subscripts, but it is more convenient and easier to read when state symbols are written as (s).

Books can do whatever they want, IUPAC clearly defines state symbols as a normal script.

Compare http://www.chemicalforums.com/index.php?topic=8373.msg38043#msg38043
Title: Re: More species react?
Post by: P on November 02, 2017, 08:15:11 AM
If the carbon is solid...  then the more finely powdered it is the faster it will react. Won't make more of it react though. Is there a catalyst that promotes further reaction?...

Removal of the product should make the reaction continue. I do not know what answer they actually want though.