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Title: Stoiciometry with Polymers and Synethesis of Adipoyl Chloride
Post by: yay on June 09, 2019, 09:11:11 PM
I'm trying to write a reaction between thionyl chloride, adipic acid, and dimethylformamide, but cant figure out how to balance it. So far I have:

SOCl2 +C6H10O4 + C7H3NO   :rarrow: C6H8Cl2O2

What would be the other product

Also, using stochiometry for the reaction:

C6H8Cl2O2 + C6H16N2  :rarrow: (C12H22N2O2)n

for example, knowing that you have 5.85 g of C6H8Cl2O2, how would u determine the amount of (C12H22N2O2)n since there is no set way to balance it


Title: Re: Stoiciometry with Polymers and Synethesis of Adipoyl Chloride
Post by: wildfyr on June 09, 2019, 10:00:38 PM
You get HCl and SO2. DMF is only a catalyst it is not consumed.
Title: Re: Stoiciometry with Polymers and Synethesis of Adipoyl Chloride
Post by: rolnor on June 10, 2019, 04:10:34 AM
You dont need DMF, just reflux the acid in excess thionylchloride for 1 hour and distill or just evaporate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acyl_chloride
Title: Re: Stoiciometry with Polymers and Synethesis of Adipoyl Chloride
Post by: Borek on June 10, 2019, 04:50:01 AM
Also, using stochiometry for the reaction:

C6H8Cl2O2 + C6H16N2  :rarrow: (C12H22N2O2)n

for example, knowing that you have 5.85 g of C6H8Cl2O2, how would u determine the amount of (C12H22N2O2)n since there is no set way to balance it

There are byproducts that you have left out.

In general polymerization equations can be definitely balanced with n - and that will allow calculation of the mass ratio of the polymer to the monomer.
Title: Re: Stoiciometry with Polymers and Synethesis of Adipoyl Chloride
Post by: rolnor on June 10, 2019, 06:45:17 AM
You can buy adipoyl chloride:
https://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/search?term=Adipoyl+chloride&interface=Product%20Name&N=0+&mode=mode%20matchpartialmax&lang=en&region=SE&focus=productN=0%20220003048%20219853286%20219853235