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Title: Volatility substances
Post by: izneb on February 03, 2020, 08:26:41 AM
Hello,

It is possible to make cannabidiol
( C21H30O2 ) volatile, mixing it with another more volatile substance and decrease weight mole?

Or others solutions to make CBD volatile?

Molar weight CBD:  314,464 g/mol
Volatile weight: between 30-300g/mol.

Thanks for yours answers!

Alex
Title: Re: Volatility substances
Post by: rolnor on February 03, 2020, 10:22:52 AM
Do you want to smoke this, or? Vaping should be fine?
Title: Re: Volatility substances
Post by: Borek on February 03, 2020, 11:21:29 AM
Is it legal where you live?
Title: Re: Volatility substances
Post by: izneb on February 03, 2020, 02:50:06 PM
It’s NOT for vaping or smoking, no heat here, just volatility like terpenes scents, at environnant pression and temperature.

Yes of course CBD is 100% legal in Switzerland, Europe, USA... is made from industrial hemp.
Title: Re: Volatility substances
Post by: Borek on February 03, 2020, 05:41:45 PM
Well, wiki says (about US):

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It is a common misconception that the legal ability to sell hemp (which may contain CBD) makes CBD legal.

I am not convinced you are right.
Title: Re: Volatility substances
Post by: izneb on February 03, 2020, 06:33:09 PM
Yes i am sure CBD is legal in US or Europe, is not if added to food or with medical claims.
But the substance is legal.
I understand the law is not easy with hemp, but...

On FDA official page:
8. Is it legal for me to sell CBD products?

A. It depends, among other things, on the intended use of the product and how it is labeled and marketed.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/public-health-focus/fda-regulation-cannabis-and-cannabis-derived-products-including-cannabidiol-cbd#farmbill
Title: Re: Volatility substances
Post by: izneb on February 03, 2020, 06:54:54 PM
I’m living in Switzerland:

Wiki US:
Switzerland   
While THC remains illegal, CBD is not subject to the Swiss Narcotic Acts because this substance does not produce a comparable psychoactive effect. Cannabis products containing less than 1% THC can be sold and purchased legally.[106]
Title: Re: Volatility substances
Post by: billnotgatez on February 03, 2020, 10:13:23 PM
Do you want to smoke this, or? Vaping should be fine?

Not one of my favorite answers.
With all the vaping and smoking bad press, especially with what additives are associated, I just get a negative feeling.
Title: Re: Volatility substances
Post by: izneb on February 04, 2020, 04:35:26 AM
Wow billnogatez, what a scientific post!
...bad press... feeling...
Title: Re: Volatility substances
Post by: pgk on February 04, 2020, 12:34:37 PM
Let’s clarify the issue!
1). Physical Chemistry:
a). Volatility is not only a question of molecular size but it is also a question of molecular shape, molecular flexibility, polarity and intermolecular hydrogen-bond formation, etc. Thus, “compounds up to 300 g/mol are volatile and so, a compound with MW = 314.5 can easily be volatile with a little something” is not a reasonable approach.
Indicatively, dimethyl phthalate is not volatile, though having MW = 283 < 300.
b). Azeotropy and azeotrope mixtures mainly refer to boiling and they are not applied at room temperature.
PS: Molecular weight of a compound, is not decreased by mixing with another compound.
Title: Re: Volatility substances
Post by: pgk on February 04, 2020, 12:35:09 PM
2). Legal Status:
a). Cannabidiol (CBD) is not a narcotic neither a psychotropic agent but it is an approved, antiepileptic drug under prescription; which means specific licenses and serious limitations, concerning purchasing, supplying, handling, preparation and formulation, everywhere. In other words, purchasing, supplying, handling, preparation and formulation of cannabidiol by unauthorized individuals and institutions, is not legal at all.
b). Similar as above concern purchasing, supplying, growing, handling, preparation and formulation of industrial hemp, as well as its use as a raw material.
PS: “Cannabis products containing less than 1% THC can be sold and purchased legally in Switzerland” does not obligatory mean that “Cannabis products containing a significant amount of CBD but less than 1% THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) can also be sold and purchased legally in Switzerland” and elsewhere.
Title: Re: Volatility substances
Post by: pgk on February 04, 2020, 12:36:57 PM
3). Conformity with the Forum Rules:
Due to the structural and physco-chemical similarity of CBD with THC, a method that makes CBD volatile at room temperature, can potentially make THC volatile at room temperature, too; which cannot be communicated in this forum that has thousands anonymous viewers from all over the world.
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Title: Re: Volatility substances
Post by: wildfyr on February 04, 2020, 04:47:32 PM
And with pgk's accurate breakdown rounding things out, this topic is locked.