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Title: Enolate chemistry
Post by: confusedug45 on May 18, 2020, 10:50:57 AM
So I believe the 1-(lithiooxy)-1-methoxyethene is acting either as a base or as a soft nucleophile. I've tried attacking various carbonyls on the chain but cannot attain the desired product. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you.
Title: Re: Enolate chemistry
Post by: kriggy on May 19, 2020, 12:48:58 AM
What about aldol reaction?
Title: Re: Enolate chemistry
Post by: confusedug45 on May 19, 2020, 05:26:27 AM
It looks like an aldol reaction and the aldehyde part would be the most electrophilic but it doesn't get the right product unless there is an additional step. I think it might be an aldol then rearrangement
Title: Re: Enolate chemistry
Post by: kriggy on May 20, 2020, 02:21:57 AM
It looks like an aldol reaction and the aldehyde part would be the most electrophilic but it doesn't get the right product unless there is an additional step. I think it might be an aldol then rearrangement
Exaclty. I didnt want to just give you the answer. Try to draw the aldol and figure out the rearrangement :) I think youre on a good way
Title: Re: Enolate chemistry
Post by: confusedug45 on May 20, 2020, 08:23:38 AM
I got the second step, it's just intramolecular nucleophilic attack from the O, followed by tautomerisation and then an e1cb. Still no luck with first step. I know it involves an aldol but could you give me a hint as to what else? or where the aldol attacks?
Title: Re: Enolate chemistry
Post by: rolnor on May 20, 2020, 10:36:00 AM
It must be a acetylation-step also? Or does the acetyl migrate?
Title: Re: Enolate chemistry
Post by: confusedug45 on May 20, 2020, 12:00:01 PM
I've figured it out, thank you for the help.
Title: Re: Enolate chemistry
Post by: kriggy on May 21, 2020, 03:00:36 AM
I've figured it out, thank you for the help.

Can you show us? Maybe someone else in the fufuture might be interested in smiliar kind of problem
Title: Re: Enolate chemistry
Post by: confusedug45 on May 24, 2020, 07:19:38 AM
Yeah sure