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Title: General Chemistry 1 - Lewis diagrams
Post by: Nahughes89 on May 29, 2022, 01:55:27 PM
In the Lewis diagram of 2-propanol, the two hydrogens to the left and right of the oxygen are bonded to the carbons below them. Why did they bond to the carbons and not the oxygen?
Title: Re: General Chemistry 1 - Lewis diagrams
Post by: sjb on May 29, 2022, 02:26:43 PM
How many bonds can oxygen, carbon and hydrogen form?
Title: Re: General Chemistry 1 - Lewis diagrams
Post by: Nahughes89 on May 29, 2022, 02:48:10 PM
Carbon can form 4 bonds, which will use up all of its valence electrons before oxygen will.

Scratch that. With 4 other atoms single bonded to a carbon, it will satisfy the octet rule  before oxygen will.
Title: Re: General Chemistry 1 - Lewis diagrams
Post by: Nahughes89 on May 30, 2022, 02:09:35 AM
Carbon can make 4, hydrogen 1, oxygen 6.
Title: Re: General Chemistry 1 - Lewis diagrams
Post by: Babcock_Hall on May 30, 2022, 11:48:21 AM
Can you explain how oxygen satisfies the octet rule in this instance?
Title: Re: General Chemistry 1 - Lewis diagrams
Post by: Nahughes89 on May 30, 2022, 02:51:59 PM
It doesn't. That's why I thought the hydrogen bonded to the carbon. Carbon has 4 valence electrons. Allowing the carbon to bond to the hydrogen next to the oxygen results in the carbons octet being fulfilled. 4 electrons shared from the surrounding H's, 4 valence electrons in the carbon, for a total of 8. (Edit- this isn't accurate either. I'm on my phone at the moment and will respond on my pc when I get home.)

Afterwards, I figured I was wrong, which is why I commented again with the numbers of bonds each of the atoms in the molecule can make.
Title: Re: General Chemistry 1 - Lewis diagrams
Post by: Babcock_Hall on May 31, 2022, 08:11:07 AM
Carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, and fluorine all follow the octet rule.  I wonder whether or not you are neglecting to think about lone pairs of electrons.