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Title: stability of cis- and tran- disubstituted cyclohexane?
Post by: Jean on November 16, 2004, 07:03:58 AM
I am wondering how to determine the stability of cis- and trans- disubstituted cyclohexane.
Should I calculate the average energy of the ring-flipped isomers and then compare the average energy between them?
Thanks.

Jean
Title: Re:stability of cis- and tran- disubstituted cyclohexane?
Post by: maxyoung on November 16, 2004, 10:18:54 AM
for 1,2 disubstituted cyclohexane, trans(most stable conformation with two e bonds) is more stable than cis(most stable conformation with one e bond and one a bond). Just compare the stability of their most stable conformations.
Title: Re:stability of cis- and tran- disubstituted cyclohexane?
Post by: Jean on November 16, 2004, 11:20:07 AM
sorry, what is a bond and what is e bond. why don't they compare the energy?
Thanks any way ::) ???
Title: Re:stability of cis- and tran- disubstituted cyclohexane?
Post by: movies on November 16, 2004, 11:48:03 AM
I assume "a" and "e" refer to axial and equatorial groups.

Your initial idea of comparing the energies of the various ring flipped conformations of the two compounds should give you a good idea.  The major interactions to look at are the 1,3-diaxial interactions and the 1,2-gauche interactions.

My off-the-cuff calculations for 1,2-dimethyl cyclohexane suggest an energy difference of about 1.8 kcal/mol between the most stable conformations of the cis and trans isomers (trans being more stable).
Title: Re:stability of cis- and tran- disubstituted cyclohexane?
Post by: Jean on November 16, 2004, 01:02:50 PM
 :) thank you. I got it.
The average energy depends mostly on the most stable one. We can calculate the K of the these two isomers. If the energies of these two isomers are big, the most sbale one always occupied >90%. We just need to calculate the energy of the most stable one and compare them.
 :P