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Chemistry Forums for Students => Organic Chemistry Forum => Topic started by: katehovey on May 21, 2007, 12:49:39 PM
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What is the order of primary, secondary and tertiary anions? I know that an acetylide anion is more stable than a vinylic anion, which is more stable than an alkyl anion. From that I'd guess that a less substituted carboanion would be more stable than a higher substituted one. Is this right?
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What is the order of primary, secondary and tertiary anions? I know that an acetylide anion is more stable than a vinylic anion, which is more stable than an alkyl anion. From that I'd guess that a less substituted carboanion would be more stable than a higher substituted one. Is this right?
Not entirely, it would depend on what the substituents on the carbonanion were.
Consider what makes carbocations more stable, and see if you can apply other trends.
S
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Well, I know with carbocations, on a more substituted carbon, hyperconjugation and the inductive effect stabalise the cation. So with a less substituted carboanion, would there be less of both these, having less effect on the lone pair of electrons?
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I think a tert-butyl carbanion would not be stable since the 3 methyl group would donate electron density towards the anion (less stable). And in primary carbanion (grignards) are stable due to less of this donation of electron density
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I think a tert-butyl carbanion would not be stable since the 3 methyl group would donate electron density towards the anion (less stable). And in primary carbanion (grignards) are stable due to less of this donation of electron density
Correct. (n-BuLi is much more stable than t-BuLi)
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I would say in general, there is an inverse correlation between the stabilities of carbocations and carbanions. Whatever makes a carbocation more stable also makes a carbanion less stable.