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Title: Taste of capsaicin
Post by: jdurg on April 24, 2004, 10:46:41 AM
I can see an "Oh my god this is hot, hot, hot, give me some beer NOW!" functional group.   ;) ;D

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Title: Re:functional groups of capsaicin
Post by: Donaldson Tan on April 24, 2004, 01:29:41 PM
Is this the chemical responsible for spicy taste in chilli too?
Title: Re:functional groups of capsaicin
Post by: Scratch- on April 24, 2004, 04:18:19 PM
I have a question... If spicy food is just your taste buds response to a compound then why can it permanently damage your taste buds?  ???
Title: Re:functional groups of capsaicin
Post by: jdurg on April 24, 2004, 05:30:53 PM
Is this the chemical responsible for spicy taste in chilli too?

Capsaicin is what gives pepper plants their "bite."  It's the chemical responsible for the heat in peppers.  It can cause damage to your taste buds by binding too strongly too them, thus causing them to lose their ability to taste.  Either that, or when they bind to your taste buds and are subsequently removed, they can damage the chemical composition of your taste buds.  It's basically an overstimulation, so to speak.   ;D
Title: Re:functional groups of capsaicin
Post by: Scratch- on April 24, 2004, 06:30:21 PM
Then how come you never hear about people losing their taste because of other things? Do they not bond as strongly?
Title: Re:Taste of capsaicin
Post by: gregpawin on May 01, 2004, 03:46:33 AM
Check out this page of hot sauces.  And you thought Tabasco was hot, some of these sauces have crystallized capsaicin in them!

http://www.chez-williams.com/Hot%20Sauce/hothome.htm (http://www.chez-williams.com/Hot%20Sauce/hothome.htm)

And it looks as though people are into getting the most amount of capsaicin possible.  Maybe we should get into the business of synthsizing capsaicin and selling it for astronomical prices.
Title: Re:Taste of capsaicin
Post by: Mitch on May 01, 2004, 04:49:08 AM
Synthesize? IT would be far cheaper just to isolate it. Let's start a chilli farm. :P
Title: Re:Taste of capsaicin
Post by: xALmoN on July 15, 2004, 07:38:28 AM
acid base extraction?
Title: Re:Taste of capsaicin
Post by: Corvettaholic on July 15, 2004, 12:19:00 PM
How would you go about isolating this stuff? Lets pretend I was dumb enough to stick a capsaicin crystal in my mouth. Would it kill me? Seems to me I'd want to die, or end up with permanent damage if I did that.
Title: Re:Taste of capsaicin
Post by: jdurg on July 15, 2004, 12:46:35 PM
I think you'd be in a lot of pain.  As for isolating it, it's already done and on massive scales.  You know pepper spray?  That's capsaicin.  Capsaicin is also used in many arthritis compounds, so the ability to extract/purify it has already been investigated and is being used.
Title: Re:Taste of capsaicin
Post by: Corvettaholic on July 15, 2004, 02:35:05 PM
Oh I know its been done, and is being done, I was just wondering if any of you guys know an easy to way to do it a home off the top of your heads. Figure I'll do a google search and see what I come up with. I'm pretty sure capsaicin is also in the CS tear gas that I get to play with in the army?