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Title: chemical formula
Post by: cells on April 07, 2009, 11:10:15 AM
Hi,
can anyone help me with determining the result of this chemical formula?  ???
(NH4)2SO4 + H3PO4 + KCl  = .+H2O.
or
(NH4)2SO4 + H3PO4 + KOH  = .+H2O.
the reaction is exothermic and results in a slurry-mud like substance which turned into solid after sometimes.

thanks.
Title: Re: chemical formula
Post by: Borek on April 07, 2009, 11:29:29 AM
Chemical formula describes composition of a compound.

(NH4)2SO4 + H3PO4 + KCl  = .+H2O.

This is unfinished (and unbalanced) chemical reaction equation.
Title: Re: chemical formula
Post by: Arkcon on April 07, 2009, 12:13:06 PM
Determining a reaction can be a little difficult sometimes, especially in a case like youres, with more than one or two reactants.  It's also hard to use you observations to predict anything:

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the reaction is exothermic

In the second case, acid plus KOH is itself exothermic.  So we can't be sure your observation describes the other reaction you're looking for.

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and results in a slurry-mud like substance which turned into solid after sometimes.

This also, will depend more on how you mix things, than the real reaction.  For example, a 100 ml of a 0.1 M concentration of each reactant, that forms a solid?  It might, I don't know.  Or are you mixing these reactants essentially pure, in just a bit of water to make a paste?  Is that why you get a slurry?  I assumed these were each in aqueous solution, or are you mixing them dry in a furnace of some sort?
Title: Re: chemical formula
Post by: lancenti on April 07, 2009, 12:57:39 PM
Also worth considering is whether you're trying to make a reactant in situ, or 'on the spot'. Phosphoric (V) Acid with KCl will give HCl (g). So are you actually trying to use the HCl (g) or is it just a byproduct while you use the KH2PO4 instead?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammonium_phosphate

That link might be useful in deciding which one you're making.