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Title: write an equation including state symbols to show the first ionisation energy o
Post by: shanker on September 14, 2009, 12:09:19 PM: write an equation including state symbols to show the first ionisation energy of nitrogen

don't know ?? help please
Title: Re: write an equation including state symbols to show the first ionisation energy o
Post by: shanker on September 14, 2009, 12:27:53 PM: 6 PEOPLE DONT KNOW THE ANSWER >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: write an equation including state symbols to show the first ionisation energy o
Post by: sjb on September 14, 2009, 12:35:02 PM: How does nitrogen usually exist? What changes occur when you ionise it?
Title: Re: write an equation including state symbols to show the first ionisation energy o
Post by: shanker on September 14, 2009, 12:56:45 PM: .... dont know ?it has the arrangement 2,5 so when ionised it would have a 3- charge. what has this got to do with working out the first ionisation energy. do i have to do the 1s2 etc
Title: Re: write an equation including state symbols to show the first ionisation energy o
Post by: shanker on September 14, 2009, 01:49:31 PM: good f&#^$*@ help on this forum
Title: Re: write an equation including state symbols to show the first ionisation energy o
Post by: endtherapture51 on September 14, 2009, 02:07:51 PM: Isnt it just...

N :rarrow: N+ +1e- or sommin?

in the gaseous state, of course
Title: Re: write an equation including state symbols to show the first ionisation energy o
Post by: Borek on September 14, 2009, 03:49:44 PM: Quote from: shanker on September 14, 2009, 12:09:19 PM
write an equation including state symbols to show the first ionisation energy of nitrogen

I would say question is unclear. No idea what equation can 'show first ionisation energy'. What endtherapture51 proposed is just an equation of the first ionisation, it doesn't 'show' the energy.

Quote from: shanker on September 14, 2009, 12:09:19 PM
the first ionisation energy of nitrogen

Quote from: shanker on September 14, 2009, 12:56:45 PM
so when ionised it would have a 3- charge

Obviously you have no idea what 'first' means.

And be sure your attitude is not helping your case.
Title: Re: write an equation including state symbols to show the first ionisation energy o
Post by: shanker on September 14, 2009, 03:56:30 PM: WELL TELL ME THEN?!!
Title: Re: write an equation including state symbols to show the first ionisation energy o
Post by: UG on September 15, 2009, 02:19:55 AM: The first ionisation (potential) of an element is the energy required to remove one mole of electrons from one mole of isolated atoms in the gaseous phase to give a +1 ion.
For exampe, the firs ionisation energy of a sodium atom is: Na (g) :rarrow: Na⁺ (g) + e^-
Title: Re: write an equation including state symbols to show the first ionisation energy o
Post by: Borek on September 15, 2009, 02:33:09 AM: Quote from: UG on September 15, 2009, 02:19:55 AM
the firs ionisation energy of a sodium atom is: Na (g) :rarrow: Na⁺ (g) + e^-

No, this is first ionisation reaction equation, not first ionisation energy. Energy involved in this reaction is the one we are interested in, but the reaction equation can't 'show the energy'. This is a lousy wording.