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Specialty Chemistry Forums => Materials and Nanochemistry forum => Topic started by: JustMe on August 20, 2012, 12:18:43 AM
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Hi,
I want to make a sheep and large battery that uses "Sodium" as Anode , I want to large to use it on electric car, and I want its Cathode to be sheep and available
Thanks a lot :)
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Hi,
I want to make a sheep and large battery that uses "Sodium" as Anode , I want to large to use it on electric car, and I want its Cathode to be sheep and available
Thanks a lot :)
Good luck, you will need it.
I suggest you start learning about general chemistry, and possibly spelling.
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Is there any body here that understand what I want? Sorry for my English because it's not my native language
Thanks a lot
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We do understand what you mean, but the level of generality of your question suggests you have just a vague idea about what you want to achieve. That's why I suggested you started learning the basics.
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Hi,
I want to make a sheep
I could make a stupid joke here, but you got it correct above, so I know you want something "cheap." Still 'tho, its fair for us to ask you to write more carefully, you did look up how to make your text bigger and bolder, so you could have been more careful.
and large battery that uses
Why do you want it big? That adds weight, that may make it less efficient for the application.
"Sodium" as
Most of the batteries I've heard of work with water in the electrolyte. The simplest reference would tell you that sodium reacts violently with water. You won't get a battery out of it.
Anode , I want to large to use it on electric car, and I want its Cathode to be sheep and available
There's nothing cheap about sodium metal, its very energy intensive to make. Such a battery wouldn't be easy to recharge, even if it was chemically possible.
Thanks a lot[/size] :)
You're welcome. It is reasonable for members of this forum to ask you to do some work, up to and including beginning to make sense. We don't dump answers on this forum, we like to help people to help themselves.
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Elemental (metal) Sodium is very aggressive and reactive chemical. This is why it is not used in batteries. This is not a problem to get electricity from sodium. The problem is to keep sodium away from air, water, alcohols, chlorinated solvents, metals, wood, polymers, rubber and 99% of all other most common materials, because sodium reacts with all of them and often with explosion. :'(
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Before we deride the OP, let's make sure we know what we're talking about.
Most rechargable ion exchange batteries, such as Li-ion, do NOT use aqueous electrolytes. The OP's idea of creating a sodium analogue to the popular Li-ion battery is not farfetched or ridiculous and deserves proper consideration.
However, there is already primary literature available on the subject. There are several metal oxide spinels known to reversibly intercalate sodium, but their performance is nowhere near the level required by industry, so they aren't paid much attention as of yet. My suggestion to the OP is to go to the library and look through relevant materials chemistry journals, such as J. Mater. Chem, Chem Materials, and Inorganic Chemistry for papers on the subject.
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Most rechargable ion exchange batteries, such as Li-ion, do NOT use aqueous electrolytes. The OP's idea of creating a sodium analogue to the popular Li-ion battery is not farfetched or ridiculous and deserves proper consideration.
Thank you Vex.
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Read one week ago that sodium-based batteries are a research topic in a Japanese university.
The reasons being that lithium is allegedly expensive and scarce, while sodium could make cheap batteries of hopefully acceptable performance.
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For cars alone we would have enough lithium, but if for instance we want to store electricity at the scale of the electric grid in batteries, in order to enable intermittent renewable energies, then the batteries would better use sodium. Makes sense - provided batteries are better than flywheels or underwater bags.
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I want its Cathode to be sheep and available
How will you get it to stay still? Would PETA protest?