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Title: socium butyrate
Post by: aghili on November 29, 2012, 01:18:00 AM
Hi
i have a problem, Please help me :'(
I am a M.Sc. Student in the field of Biotechnology.
I dissolved Sodium butyrate in PBS to use it but Even after several hours is not dissolved. also I've done sonication to dissolve it .
product information of sodium butyrate:

Product Number B5887
Molecular Formula: C4H7NaO2
Molecular Weight: 110.1
CAS Number: 156-54-7
Preparation Instructions
This product is soluble in water (100 mg/ml), with
sonication as needed, yielding a clear to slightly hazy,colorless solution.

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/etc/medialib/docs/Sigma-Aldrich/Product_Information_Sheet/b5887pis.Par.0001.File.tmp/b5887pis.pdf

best wishes
aghili
Title: Re: socium butyrate
Post by: curiouscat on November 29, 2012, 02:08:16 AM

I dissolved Sodium butyrate in PBS to use it but Even after several hours is not dissolved. also I've done sonication to dissolve it .

How much in how much solvent? What is PBS, pardon my ignorance.

Sonication can help speed things up but it isn't magic. Sonication cannot make the insoluble soluble.
Title: Re: socium butyrate
Post by: aghili on November 29, 2012, 06:08:20 AM
phosphate buffered saline
Phosphate buffered saline (abbreviated PBS) is a buffer solution commonly used in biological research. It is a water-based salt solution containing sodium chloride, sodium phosphate, and, in some formulations, potassium chloride and potassium phosphate. The buffer's phosphate groups help to maintain a constant pH.

At Beginning I made a 0.5 Molar stock solution (250 miligram  sodium butyrate + 4.545 cc phosphate buffered saline(PBS)). After that did not dissolve , again I made a 0.1 molar stock solution (Previous solutions + 18.160 cc phosphate buffered saline(PBS)) But it was not effective.
Thanks for your time.
Best wishes
aghili
Title: Re: socium butyrate
Post by: AWK on November 29, 2012, 07:26:12 AM
If possible - use potassium salts in buffer.
Title: Re: socium butyrate
Post by: curiouscat on November 29, 2012, 07:51:14 AM
Are you allowed any leeway in warming up the solution a bit or not at all?
Title: Re: socium butyrate
Post by: aghili on November 29, 2012, 10:17:47 AM
no, not at all
I think that  the heat may be harmful for this material because After making the stock solution will be unstable and Should be kept at -20.
Title: Re: socium butyrate
Post by: Babcock_Hall on November 29, 2012, 11:13:19 AM
I agree with the suggestion made by AWK on the basis of the common ion effect.  If you have to store this solution frozen, then you will have similar issues every time you thaw out an aliquot.  It may need to be sonnicated, warmed, or whatever.