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Title: Why this reaction doesn't go far??
Post by: Peterany on December 12, 2012, 12:05:32 PM
I'm trying conjugate addition with 2-cyclohexanone and diethylzinc.
I'm using Cu(OTf)2 and phosphoamidite ligand, as catalyst.
It's very well-known reaction, high yield and ee% (I remember max. 99%) .
and procedure also is easy to get.
Following the procedure, however, starting enone remains still..  :-[ :'(
I suspected the starting didn't fully converted because of complexation of Cu and ligands.
But, it's only a suggestion. Anyone can find what's the problem here??
Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.


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A solution of Cu(OTf), (0.020 mmol) and ligand (0.040 mmol) in toluene (5 mL) was stirred for 1 h. The colorless solution was cooled (- 30 °C) and enone (1.0 mmol) and
1.5 equivalent of diethyllzinc solution were added. After 3 h at - 30 °C the reaction mixture was poured into 25 mL of 1 N HCI and extracted with diethyl ether (2 x 25 mL). The combined organic layers were washed with brine (25 mL), dried (MgSO,), filtered, and evaporated to give the crude 1,4-products. After purification by chromatography (SiO,. hexane:diethyl ether 5: 1) the ee valueswere determined.
Title: Re: Why this reaction doesn't go far??
Post by: discodermolide on December 12, 2012, 12:10:41 PM
Are you using the BINAP ligands as described by Feringa in Tetrahedron Asymmetry, 2001, 12, 2497?
Title: Re: Why this reaction doesn't go far??
Post by: OC pro on December 12, 2012, 03:40:18 PM
Problem could be with diethyl zinc. This stuff is difficult to handle and can be spoiled easily making the reaction a complete fail. How fresh was your Zn(Et)2?
Title: Re: Why this reaction doesn't go far??
Post by: stewie griffin on December 12, 2012, 10:01:52 PM
I second the diethylzinc comment. Very easy to go bad.
Title: Re: Why this reaction doesn't go far??
Post by: Peterany on December 13, 2012, 05:35:51 AM
Problem could be with diethyl zinc. This stuff is difficult to handle and can be spoiled easily making the reaction a complete fail. How fresh was your Zn(Et)2?


I'm using commercial Et2Zn, 1.0 M in hexane (Aldrich)

I tried with reagents opened almost 1 year ago at first,
and tried with new Et2Zn. But, It didn't show big difference.

So, I'm finding a clue why this reaction doesn't work.  ???
Title: Re: Why this reaction doesn't go far??
Post by: Peterany on December 13, 2012, 05:45:13 AM
Are you using the BINAP ligands as described by Feringa in Tetrahedron Asymmetry, 2001, 12, 2497?

Actually, I'm using this one.
This ligand also was reported by Feringa.
Title: Re: Why this reaction doesn't go far??
Post by: OC pro on December 13, 2012, 08:15:04 AM
Solvents and whole set-up is dry? Do you use nitrogen or argon? Do you add the Zn(Et)2 dropwise and very slowly (temperature control)?
It could also be a difference in which solution your diethylzinc has to be handled. To which solution does the paper refer when diethylzinc solution is mentioned. I mean the reactivity and solubility comparing hexane and diethyl ether can be very different.