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Title: about steric strain and torsional strain
Post by: yiyo on September 17, 2013, 10:05:00 AM
I would like to ask what is the difference between steric strain and torsional strain?
I know torsional strain should be related to the eclipsed conformation, torsional strain occurs when you try to convert staggered conformation to eclipsed one. But what about steric strain? Does steric strain occur only in the staggered conformation?
Title: Re: about steric strain and torsional strain
Post by: spirochete on September 17, 2013, 01:11:32 PM
This is an excellent question that everybody asks.

Steric strain occurs simply because two groups do not want to occupy the same space and the molecule must distort to accommodate that. Steric strain is the main strain involved in gauche interactions, for example in the gauche conformation of butane.

Torsional strain is more complicated: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strain_(chemistry)#Torsional_strain

Research suggests that torsional strain includes a steric component in some molecules, but also something more complicated. Staggered conformations  are stabilized by a stereoelectronic effect called hyperconjugation, where a filled sigma bonding orbital donates into an unfilled sigma antibonding orbital. In the eclipsed conformation this stabilization is lost, and this lack of stabilization results in torsional strain.

All torsional strain includes a stereoelectronic component, but not all torsional strain includes a steric component. For example the torsional strain associated with the eclipsed conformation of ethane does not have steric strain because hydrogen atoms are too small. In contrast, the strain in the highest energy eclipsed conformation of butane (with a methyl-methyl eclipsed interaction) includes both a steric component as well as a stereoelectronic component.
Title: Re: about steric strain and torsional strain
Post by: curiouscat on September 17, 2013, 01:36:09 PM
Why cannot hyperconjugation stabilization happen in  eclipsed configurations?
Title: Re: about steric strain and torsional strain
Post by: yiyo on October 14, 2013, 10:12:58 AM
Steric strain occurs simply because two groups do not want to occupy the same space and the molecule must distort to accommodate that.

Can I say that steric strain occurs in the cases when two bulky groups are very close to each other? And also I would like to ask whether cyclopropane has steric strain? Or it has only angle strain and torsional strain?