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Title: Phenol + Na
Post by: jonkye on March 25, 2006, 04:38:59 PM

Hello

I've searched everywhere but I cannot find out what happens if you mix phenol and sodium togheter

basically this reaction

C6H5OH + Na =====>  ???

I already know this one

C6H5OH + NaOH =====> C6H5ONa + H2O

but I cannot find the first one

thank u very much ;)

Title: Re:Phenol + Na
Post by: Paradoxtom on March 25, 2006, 06:11:36 PM

-> Natriumphenolat

Title: Re:Phenol + Na
Post by: jonkye on March 25, 2006, 08:36:06 PM

Natriumphenolat.....it should be C6H5ONa, but what does it have to do with the question?  ???

I was wondering if something like that could be possible

C6H5OH + Na =  C6H5ONa +  H+

but I am not sure....I need someone that is

Title: Re:Phenol + Na
Post by: Alberto_Kravina on March 26, 2006, 06:49:18 AM

No! In your reaction sodium is oxidized but there is no reduction! This doesn't happen!
Hint: The H atom of the OH group is reduced to elementar hydrogen.

Title: Re:Phenol + Na
Post by: jonkye on March 26, 2006, 06:54:32 AM

mmh could you write an equation plz?

Title: Re:Phenol + Na
Post by: Alberto_Kravina on March 26, 2006, 06:57:58 AM

Quote from: jonkye on March 26, 2006, 06:54:32 AM

mmh could you write an equation plz?

2 Alcohol + 2 Na ----> 2 Alcoholate + H₂
2 R-OH + 2 Na ----> 2 R-ONa + H₂