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Title: Alternative photohalogenation
Post by: Enthalpy on April 26, 2015, 06:34:16 AM
Hello the experts!

You all know the halogenation by free radical reaction:
(1) X-X -> X° + °X by light
(2) R-H + °X -> R° + H-X
(3) R° + X-X -> R-X + X°
nice, fine, but with some limits. Chlorine makes subsequent reactions difficult, iodine doesn't react, and bromine can be slow or impractical at some substrates R (...like cyclopropane and the assimilated spiropentane for instance).

Still according to textbooks, this is because the endothermal limiting step (2) is too difficult when the R-H bond is strong. The appended tables give bond energies by the halogens (where I included hydrogen) and between C and H in varied cases, which explain why t-butane (38kJ short) is brominated quickly but methane (72kJ) slowly.

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For difficult brominations, I suggest use hydrogen radical as the step (2) halogen, and keep Br2 at step (3):
(2) R-H + °H -> R° + H-H
(3) R° + Br-Br -> R-Br + Br°
H° is marginally stronger than Cl°, just 9kJ short on cyclopropane, so it should create R° quickly, and the exothermal step (3) is easy anyway.

H° shall result from HI photolysis. I seek no chain reaction, just one photon to start one bromination. The adjusted relative abundances are R-H > Br-Br > H-I > R-Br, I-I >> H°, I°, R°.

The proportions of R-H, Br-Br, H-I must be adjusted and R-Br, H-H, I-I removed as the reaction proceeds, which is normal at a production site but a drawback in a lab.

To compare with, Cl° reacts a few times more with (CH3)3C-H (-28kJ or -43kJ) than with C2H5-H (-9kJ or -22kJ) so I hope the selectivity of H° towards Br-Br (-173kJ, react every time) versus C3H5-H (+9kJ, exp(-E/kT)=0.08) remains manageable through the Br-Br abundance.

Chemists don't need the warning: this is paperwork, take with due mistrust.

UV absorption spectra are to come, enlightening the choice of the reactants.
Marc Schaefer, aka Enthalpy
Title: Re: Alternative photohalogenation
Post by: Enthalpy on April 26, 2015, 06:41:17 AM
The absorption spectra of chlorides, bromides and iodides, compared with good light sources, are appended.

The superior low-pressure Hg lamps provide H° from H-I, don't touch the alkane, excite the bromoalkane little (it recreates anyway) and Br-Br little (wastes light); I-I is 8 times less sensitive than H-I and should be removed. Good combination.

Could H-BR provide the H°? Uneasy. The produced bromoalkane absorbs light like H-Br does; the absorption by Br-Br suggests a Xe2 lamp, or even ArF at 193nm. Less seducing, but at least I-I doesn't bother.

Could Cl° make the hard step instead of H°? Yes, if obtained from I-Cl (LP Hg lamp) or Br-Cl (Hg lamp but Br-Br absorbs, or XeBr, XeCl but Cl-Cl absorbs). Or just from Cl-Cl, with XeCl or filtered HP Hg lamps, both inefficient; future Leds may solve it. Less seducing because of the lamps, but Cl2+Br2 is known for difficult photobrominations, allegedly through BrCl.

Could we iodinate that way? H-I and I-I with a LP Hg lamp, or I-Cl and I-I with a filtered HP Hg lamp or Leds? I suppose not. Cl2+I2 is known to make only the chloroalkanes; the iodides are so unfavourable that I believe every H°, Cl°, Br° destroys them as they form (other explanations exist). But if the bromination works, the iodination is a trial worth.

Alternatives are known, like hypobromites.

Comments desired as usual!
Marc Schaefer, aka Enthalpy
Title: Re: Alternative photohalogenation
Post by: pgk on April 26, 2015, 07:00:31 AM
It seems a nice idea.
As an additional information, bond dissociation energies correspond to characteristic radiation wave lengths that can be taken from tables or calculated in detail, as follows:
E= hv = hc/λ.
Thus, by using the appropriate UV lamps and the appropriate UV filters, the photohalogenation might be convenient. (Take care on the influence of the solvent to the absorbed wavelength.)
Besides, activated hydrogenation cannot be considered as safe and hypobromites are oxidation agents.
Title: Re: Alternative photohalogenation
Post by: Enthalpy on April 26, 2015, 03:39:39 PM
I too had hoped at a relationship between the excited state's energy and the wavelength, largely misled by textbooks... Alas, molecules need photons far more energetic than the transition would suggest, as a dire reality. Nor are absorption spectra as simple as in books.

Halogenations are generally conducted in gas phase, and this was my intent - I could have emphasized it. One reason if using an efficient wavelength is that a gas is opaque enough, a liquid wouldn't renew the reactants quickly; an other reason is that solvents may well be opaque or get activated; and still an other reason, that solvents (except perfluoroalkanes) probably participate in reactions where radical halogens are present.
Title: Re: Alternative photohalogenation
Post by: pgk on April 26, 2015, 03:48:50 PM
Please, take a look in a UV spctroscopy textbook (an older edition, in preference) and read about the influence of the solvent on the absorbed wavelength.This will help you, a lot.
Title: Re: Alternative photohalogenation
Post by: Enthalpy on April 27, 2015, 10:19:07 AM
No solvent here, it's all gas phase, as usual in photohalogenations.
Title: Re: Alternative photohalogenation
Post by: pgk on April 27, 2015, 12:09:40 PM
OK. Sorry, for the misunderstanding.
Title: Re: Alternative photohalogenation
Post by: Enthalpy on July 26, 2015, 08:24:53 PM
Could hydrogen peroxide make alcohols from alkanes, similarly to the free-radical halogenation? Figures suggest yes, but the compounds will do what they want, as usual.

Permanganates, chromic acid, singlet oxygen, ozone are known for that goal, as well as Fenton's reaction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenton%27s_reagent
which all operate in liquid phase, while here gasses shall react.

To the previous table of bond dissociation energies, I've added -OH bonds taken gratefully from
www.nist.gov/data/nsrds/NSRDS-NBS31.pdf
and the new appended table suggests that
No step in the free radical chain reaction is limited by a need for heat, so it should diverge as it does with fluorine. Potential answers:
Some carbyls hit a brominated compound, and the resulting bromine atom can't abstract a hydrogen from the alkane at room temperature so this chain stops. Then, the proportion of brominated compound and the light intensity shall give some control over the reaction rate - maybe.

Being so reactive, hydroxyls can put functions at difficult positions, maybe on cyclopropane. An alcohol can then be converted to a bromide for instance, but other reactions are known for that goal, for instance using hypobromides or Cl2+Br2.

Gasses permit to evacuate mono-alcohols as they form, because these condense much more easily than alkanes do, and the reaction with peroxide needs no heat. So while no selectivity is expected among isomers, at least the degree of oxidation could be better controlled than through other reactions.

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I've put in the appended figure absorption spectra downloaded from MPI in Mainz
http://satellite.mpic.de/spectral_atlas (thank you!)
and it suggests that:
Marc Schaefer, aka Enthalpy
Title: Re: Alternative photohalogenation
Post by: Enthalpy on October 04, 2015, 05:20:52 PM
Cyclopropane, spiropentane and some more are difficult to halogenate, even with chlorine, both because their C-H bonds are too strong and because they open C-C bonds. Here is an alternative - prospective - attempt where light from an Ar2 lamp at 126nm shall break the C-H bonds instead.

Ar2 excimer lamps are commercially available but less powerful than Hg or Xe2, and 5 to 15% power-efficient.

Does 126nm light really break C-H bonds? I've no data about it... Methane speaks in favour with 0.4x the absorption cross-section of propane. Similar sections for n-propane and cyclopropane, too. Though, absorption results from molecular orbitals, not from bonds, and is long finished when the atoms separate or rearrange.

If H° abstraction succeeds, the next step can be an H° capture or a dimerization - fine for me. Or the reactor can contain some halogen X2, which both R° and H° break efficiently to make RX, HX, X°. Neither H° nor X° would abstract an °H from the candidate RH here.

I've no data about the 126nm absorption by halogens... A bold extrapolation of wavelength ratios from lower energies would put I2's 175-190nm peak around Kr2 light for Br2 and around Ar2 light for Cl2, with sections similar to the alkanes. As halogen splitting only wastes light, maintaining 1/10 the alkane pressure looks reasonable.

126nm absorption by HX and RX needs an extrapolation too. Maintaining the HX and RX pressure at 1/100 to 1/10 the alkane pressure should avoid their destruction.

In case this tentative wants to work, it can directly brominate or iodinate substrates restive even to chlorine.

Marc Schaefer, aka Enthalpy
Title: Re: Alternative photohalogenation
Post by: Enthalpy on June 12, 2016, 08:43:44 AM
Some more radicals bond strongly with hydrogen: °C6H5, °C6F5... They could abstract H from cyclopropane, spiropentane or others and leave the rest ready to bind with the desired species, for instance a halogen. From Yu Ran Luo's "Bond Dissociation Energies":

BDE in kJ/mol
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558     H-C≡CH
497     H-OCF3
---- Tools -----
529     H-C≡N
487     H-C6F5
472     H-C6H5
464     H-CF=CF2
464     H-CH=CH2
446     H-CH2CF3
--- Targets ----
452 ?   H-sPen
445     H-cPr
--- Compare ----
497     H-OH
431     H-Cl
366     H-Br
--- Compare ----
422     H-Pr
411     H-iPr
400     H-tBu
=============

The energy balance (but it isn't an activation energy) of hydrogen transfer suggests that:
Ethynyl precursors would detonate easily. Does HOCF3 recombine?

If the transfer proceeds at RT or even below, it may preserve the spiropentane skeleton. For the products I seek (you know) I need no selectivity.

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Light absorbed by a halide shall split the halogen from the sought radical. It's a safe assumption for °CH2CF3. Hopefully some unsaturated compounds in the list do it too. No chain reaction is expected, so the light source provides over one photon per product molecule.

Even (cold) atomic chlorine doesn't abstract hydrogen from the considered targets, so elemental halogen can be a reactant, if it doesn't absorb too much light; a pending carbon bond breaks the halogen molecule. If the haloatom separated from the hydrogen-greedy radical shall be the substitute at the target, then it replenishes the reactor naturally.

I've added NO2 to the halogens since obtaining nitro compounds in one step can be useful. Other functional groups must be possible.

Light may split the produced halides too. They would form again from the available halogen molecules, but the effectiveness drops. The reactor shall separate continuously the species to maintain good proportions:
My next goal is to couple the target hydrocarbons by halide abstraction, so I'd have nothing against a variant where the hydrocarbyl radicals recombine with an other rather than with a halogen. Short concentrated light pulses and halogen elimination would help, but it's uneasy.

Regenerating a halide of the hydrogen-greedy radical means a higher energy barrier than halogenating the target, but higher temperature and less caring reactants like hypohalites are possible, and some reactions are known for instance for benzene. For nitriles it involves the salts, yuk - or does ArF light split C2N2?

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CF3CH2Br is one sound example in the spectra appended in two messages. At KrCl's 222nm, its section is 2*10-19cm2, so 10-2bar partial pressure at 298K attenuate by exp(1) in 0.2m, and CF3CH2I would enable lp-Hg lamps. The target hydrocarbon at 1bar and byproduced CF3CH3 attenuate nothing. If the substituent is chlorine, both it and the produced chloride can stay at nearly 1bar in the reactor. If it's bromine, just the product must be kept around 10-1bar. Iodine must be kept a bit under 10-1bar but the produced iodide is less critical. A nitro produced that way must be removed quickly, or rather, it would use a lp-Hg lamp with CF3CH2I.

What does light to other hydrogen-greedy radical precursors do? I've no data. For instance C6H5-Cl, -Br and -I absorb 222nm light 1000× better than C6H6 does, but do they separate the haloatom, or is some aromatic transition shifted to longer waves? BrCN and ICN seem clearer, with absorption peaks at wavelengths known from other X-C bonds and where HCN is transparent.

Marc Schaefer, aka Enthalpy
Title: Re: Alternative photohalogenation
Post by: Enthalpy on June 12, 2016, 08:45:54 AM
Here the other spectra.
Title: Re: Alternative photohalogenation
Post by: Enthalpy on June 19, 2016, 12:13:22 PM
Light can replace a haloatom or group with an other or suppress it by splitting the reactant. Or at least, the appended diagrams suggest it. Competitor reactions exist without light.

Among halides.
A 405nm violet Led can measure the Br2 concentration, a red Led I2, and a 365nm Led Cl2+Br2.

Nitro group. NO2 releases O at light hence shall be kept low.

Amino group. But is there a safe source if NH2, and what wavelength does it absorb?

Removing a halide or a group demands a better H source than H2. 1,4-cylohexadiene is represented by 1,4-pentadiene on the diagram. Toluene seems less useful. HI and the more caring HBr look interesting.

Marc Schaefer, aka Enthalpy