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Offline gt5hz

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How to determine bond angles for complex molecules
« on: November 30, 2009, 09:55:54 PM »
For example, C21H30O2, THC.

I know the basics of the Vsepr theory. Maximum "distance" away from each other (bonds), minimum repulsion.
I'm using the Vsepr, I suppose you could say.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_geometry

Similar to the chart in the link. However, it doesn't deal with electron domains, it deals with # of bonds and lone pairs of electrons. If I follow this method, will it allow to build this compound properly?



My approach would be to look at each H/C/O, and determine it's shape (linear, triagonal pyramidial, etc) using each H/C/O as the central atom, and looking at the lone pairs, # of bonds, etc.

BTW, if this going to work, do double bonds count as a single bond?

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Re: How to determine bond angles for complex molecules
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2009, 05:09:57 AM »
are you trying to build a molecular model of this?  If so, you'll need to focus on hybrid orbitals...sp, sp2, sp3...etc

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Re: How to determine bond angles for complex molecules
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2009, 02:17:07 PM »
are you trying to build a molecular model of this?  If so, you'll need to focus on hybrid orbitals...sp, sp2, sp3...etc
Would not looking at each atom and the number of atoms connected to it, with the # of lone electrons, have the same effect, and then use a Vseper chart? Well, a chart that says something like...

Linear, 2 bonds to central atom, no lone electron pairs, 180 degrees

And obviously, comparing it with a 3D model.

http://www.edinformatics.com/interactive_molecules/3D/thc_molecule.htm

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