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calculating mass by volume percentages
« on: August 25, 2013, 03:42:59 PM »
A problem wants me to calculate the mass of 1 mole of dry air which is a mixture of N2(78% by volume), O2 (21%), and Ar (1%)

i could do this if it was percentages by the percentage of the 1 mole, but i don't know where to start with volume percentages. don't tell me the entire thing but give me a starting point and hint to me where to go from there please.

thanks

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Re: calculating mass by volume percentages
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2013, 04:08:51 PM »
I got this from WIKI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_conditions_for_temperature_and_pressure

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The molar volume of any ideal gas may be calculated at various standard reference conditions as shown below:

    V/n = 8.3145 × 273.15 / 101.325 = 22.414 m3/kmol at 0 °C and 101.325 kPa
    V/n = 8.3145 × 273.15 / 100.000 = 22.711 m3/kmol at 0 °C and 100 kPa
    V/n = 8.3145 × 298.15 / 101.325 = 24.466 m3/kmol at 25 °C and 101.325 kPa
    V/n = 8.3145 × 298.15 / 100.000 = 24.790 m3/kmol at 25 °C and 100 kPa

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Re: calculating mass by volume percentages
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2013, 04:11:48 PM »
A problem wants me to calculate the mass of 1 mole of dry air which is a mixture of N2(78% by volume), O2 (21%), and Ar (1%)

i could do this if it was percentages by the percentage of the 1 mole, but i don't know where to start with volume percentages. don't tell me the entire thing but give me a starting point and hint to me where to go from there please.

thanks

What would be the mass if it were 100% nitrogen. Perhaps also look at things like the ideal gas law?

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Re: calculating mass by volume percentages
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2013, 05:03:18 PM »
so can you tell me if this is right?

0.78VN2+0.21VO2+0.01VAr=Vtotal

PVtotal=nRT

Vtotal=(nRT/P)

0.78V(nN2RT/P)+0.21(nO2RT/P)+0.01(nArRT/P)=Vtotal

=(RT/P)(0.78nN2+0.21nO2+0.01nAr)=Vtotal

but i know since the total n must equal one, as given in the problem,

this becomes the equivalent problem as if i were doing percentages with moles right?

so..

(0.78nN2+0.21nO2+0.01nAr)=1

am i on the right track so far?

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Re: calculating mass by volume percentages
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2013, 05:51:02 PM »
Yes.
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Re: calculating mass by volume percentages
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2013, 06:06:27 PM »
thank you very much everyone :)

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Re: calculating mass by volume percentages
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2013, 07:44:04 PM »
@iScience
If you give your final steps I would be grateful

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