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Wedge and Ladders
« on: May 26, 2019, 04:00:42 AM »
So i have a question about where the wedges and ladders would end up at the end of the attached picture. I can't figure it out and would like someone to explain it to me.
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Re: Wedge and Ladders
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2019, 04:48:05 AM »
https://www.masterorganicchemistry.com/2015/12/10/reactions-of-grignard-reagents/

This doesn't show the other side of the compound. It only shows the O- wedge. I need to know where the other wedge would go on an open chain and not a ring.

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Re: Wedge and Ladders
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2019, 05:00:10 AM »
Just read accompanying text in point 2.
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Re: Wedge and Ladders
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2019, 05:33:38 AM »
Just read accompanying text in point 2.

Ok thank you, I understand the inversion now. One last thing though, in the example I gave, would the CH3 on the right side or the H on the right side be on the wedge?

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Re: Wedge and Ladders
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2019, 05:45:58 AM »
The right picture lost stereochemistry, but from the middle one, you can set it correctly. This is as simple as the SN2 mechanism.
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