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Need Help On Masses, Empirical and Molecular Formula
« on: August 13, 2006, 11:48:03 PM »
Just came back to school.. and I realize I've forgotten so many things! ARGG! >_< So if anyone can, I would really appreciate it you could help and show/explain me how to do these problems!  ???  :-\


1) An element consists of 1.40% of an isotope with mass 203.973 amu, 24.10% of an isotope with mass 205.9745 amu, 22.10% of an isotope with mass 206.959 amu, and 52.40% of an isotope with mass 207.9766 amu. Calculate the average atomic mass and identify the elementy.

2) The element rhenium (Re) has two naturally occuring isotopes, 185Re and 187Re, with an average atomic mass of 186.207 amu. Rhenium is 62.60% 187Re, and the atomic mass of 187Re is 186.956 amu. Calculate the mass of 185Re.

3) A compound contains only carbon, hydrogen, and oxygen. Combustion of 10.68 mg of the compound yields 16.01 mg CO2 and 4.37 mg H2O. The molar mass of the compound is 176.1 g/mol. What are the empirical and molecular formulas of the compound.

I have a few more problems, but hopefully after I solve these I might be able to solve the others, if not I might post more up.  :'(

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Re: Need Help On Masses, Empirical and Molecular Formula
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2006, 02:38:02 AM »
for questions 1 and 2 just use this formular :average atomic mass =( atomic mass1 x % amu +atomic mass 2 x % amu .)/ 100
if i'm not wrong the element number 1 has mentioned is Pb

for number 3, we have a reaction here : CxHyOz + O2 ->  CO2   + H2O   (not balanced)
                                                             10.68 mg                16.01mg  4.37mg
                                                             176.1 g/mol

# of moles of CxHyOz  : 10.68 x10^(-3) g  x (1 mol/ 176.1g)  =  6.065 x 10^(-5) moles
------------------ CO2 : 16.01 x 10^ (-3) g  x (1mol / 44.0 g)  =  3.639 x 10 ^ (-4) moles
------------------ H2O : 4.37 x 10^(-3) g  x (1mol/ 18.0g)  =  2.428 x 10^(-4) moles
 
then we have a ratio for the above reaction  CxHyOz : CO2  : H2O -> 1 : 6 :4

well, i hope up to here you can figure out its empirical formular .
 
one more hint: molecular formular = N x(empirical formular )   (where N=molar mass / empirical mass )

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Re: Need Help On Masses, Empirical and Molecular Formula
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2006, 06:35:16 AM »
Bao's  method give us a molecular formula directly -  C6H8O6 (eg Vitamin C)

N in Bao's formula is called the greatest common divisor (in this case the GCD is 2, and empirical formula is C3H4O3).
Note - calculation of empirical mass can be omitted in this way.
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Re: Need Help On Masses, Empirical and Molecular Formula
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2006, 09:42:46 AM »
just to give another way of calculation that leads to the same answer C6H8O6:

16.01 mg CO2 = 0.364 mmol CO2 --> contains 0.364 mmol C: mass = 4.369 mg

4.37 mg H2O = 0,243 mmol H2O --> contains 0.486 mmol H: mass = 0.489 mg.

--> mass O: 10.68 - (4.369 + 0.489) = 5.822 mg --> thus 0.364 mmol O

Ratio C : H : O = 0.364 : 0.486 : 0.364 = 1 : 1.34 : 1 = 3 : 4 : 3

Empirical formula: C3H4O3 --> molar mass = 88.062 g/mol

--> molar mass is 176.1, thus that is 176.1 / 88.062 = 2 times the empirical formula.

--> molecular formula: C6H8O6.

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Re: Need Help On Masses, Empirical and Molecular Formula
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2006, 07:09:34 PM »
Thanks everyone I got it now. :D

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